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Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Posted By: Forrest of B.org (term2-31.vta.west.net)
Date: 8/14/2002 at 10:42 p.m.
In Response To: Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth (Seraph)
: So killing the gunman, if it would stop him from doing
: more evil now as well as later, would be a good thing.
: Right?
Killing the gunman to save more lives would be better than doing nothing and letting him kill people. But there are even better solutions: ideally you could rehabilitate him, but even if that's not possible you might be able to spare his life and prevent him from harming others without causing undue harm elsewhere (f.ex. consuming so many of society's resources to keep him in prison that people wind up starving, or something).
Basically, circumstance dictates what is the most right/good and least harmful/evil solution to a given problem at the moment. If somebody burst into my room waving a gun, and I had enough opportunity to get in close without being shot, I probably wouldn't hesitate to royally kick his ass and break a number of bones (have I mentioned to our new folks that I'm a 3rd degree black belt in TaeKwonDo, just passed my 10th anniversary of training?). I'd probably just barely hesitate from killing him, depending on my state of mind at the time.
Ideally, I'd just knock the gun out of his hands and get him in a nice hold until the cops got there, but depending on how capable I feel and how clear-minded I am at the time, I might decide that excess harm against someone who has harmful intentions is better than excess risk of harm against a well-intentioned person like myself.
Messages In This Thread
- The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth *PIC*
Seraph (adsl-66-120-160-17.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 12:12 a.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Forrest of B.org (term2-33.vta.west.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 3:46 a.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Seraph (adsl-64-171-5-148.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 5:18 a.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Forrest of B.org (term1-7.vta.west.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 1:56 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth *PIC*
zeph (194.125.156.254) -- 8/11/2002 at 5:03 p.m.
- The End?
Stinger (204.60.210.159) -- 8/11/2002 at 10:44 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Seraph (adsl-64-171-5-148.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 5:17 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Forrest of B.org (term2-29.vta.west.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 5:34 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Seraph (adsl-64-171-5-148.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/11/2002 at 5:39 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
griefmop (63.225.37.30) -- 8/13/2002 at 7:34 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Seraph (adsl-66-120-160-65.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/13/2002 at 7:42 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Forrest of B.org (ip68-6-118-241.sb.sd.cox.net) -- 8/13/2002 at 8:42 p.m.
- *Nudge, wink*
Welly (spider-wm044.proxy.aol.com) -- 8/13/2002 at 11:08 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-120-160-65.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/13/2002 at 11:36 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Forrest of B.org (term1-14.vta.west.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 12:37 a.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Martel (inktomi2-nth.server.ntl.com) -- 8/14/2002 at 7:37 a.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Welly (spider-wo081.proxy.aol.com) -- 8/14/2002 at 3:35 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-120-160-65.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 3:46 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Forrest of B.org (ip68-6-118-241.sb.sd.cox.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 5:25 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 6:20 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Forrest of B.org (ip68-6-118-241.sb.sd.cox.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 7:59 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 8:04 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Martel (m663-mp1.cvx1-c.ltn.dial.ntli.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 5:28 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 6:27 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
griefmop (63.225.37.30) -- 8/14/2002 at 6:39 p.m.
- Re: *Nudge, wink*
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 7:17 p.m.
- Objectively
Welly (spider-wo051.proxy.aol.com) -- 8/14/2002 at 7:52 p.m.
- Re: Objectively
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 8:06 p.m.
- Re: Objectively
Welly (spider-wo051.proxy.aol.com) -- 8/14/2002 at 8:52 p.m.
- Re: Objectively
Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-134.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 8/15/2002 at 1:15 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
griefmop (1Cust193.tnt7.tucson.az.da.uu.net) -- 8/14/2002 at 12:35 a.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth
Stinger (204.60.210.159) -- 8/11/2002 at 10:37 p.m.
- Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth *PIC*
zeph (194.125.156.254) -- 8/11/2002 at 4:50 p.m.
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