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Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth

Posted By: Seraph (adsl-66-123-169-81.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net)
Date: 8/14/2002 at 8:11 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The One Dream and the Ultimate Truth (Forrest of B.org)

: The Dark is wrong because their justification is faulty,
: just as the Light's is, because neither of them knows
: the complete truth, and neither can be objective
: because in the end it just comes down to "us vs
: them," and of course everyone is always going to
: choose "us" over "them" if that's
: all it amounts to.

That makes sense. If only we all were so omnisecenient.

: But they're not evil, because it's not like they came
: here from another world with the sole purpose of
: destroying our entire existance "just
: because". They're trying to undo the harm that
: was done unto them, so their motive is right, and
: based on the information they have, they are
: justified. But they can't be objective, and neither
: can the Light.

In that sense, I agree.

: I put a gun to your head and say "Kill that random
: pregnant mother or I'll blow your brains out!"
: Are you saying it's OK to kill her just to save your
: own life? If you refuse, and die for it, the harm
: stops at you; if you kill the pregnant woman, then you
: are doing more harm in response to someone else's harm
: toward you, so the net result is even more harm, and
: therefore the action is wrong.

I hope he's not...I already embarassed myself over something far less important on this and I'd really rather not lose my temper again and get embarassed.

: Now if you were to kill someone who was trying to kill
: you, and you had no other choice, then that's
: justified. But if you were some sort of magical being
: that could either teleport out or zap the gunman with
: a bolt of lightning, and you did the lightning thing
: when you could have prevented harm to yourself without
: causing harm to another, then that would be evil.

Or at least, dark greyishly neutral.

: Of course, in these examples I'm neglecting the fact that
: the gunman could later go on to kill someone else, and
: if killing him was the only way to stop him from doing
: so, then in the end that results in more good than
: harm and would not be evil.

So killing the gunman, if it would stop him from doing more evil now as well as later, would be a good thing.
Right?

Seraph

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