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Re: *Nudge, wink*

Posted By: Martel (m663-mp1.cvx1-c.ltn.dial.ntli.net)
Date: 8/14/2002 at 5:28 p.m.

In Response To: Re: *Nudge, wink* (Seraph)

: Right, and Soulblighter, not sure about Balor, was
: definately a pyschopath.

: Totally agreed. I think evil should be
: "destroyed" but I'm judging by actions. You
: do evil as an individiual, I come to kick your ass as
: an individual. Hitler's logic (if it can really be
: called such)was that of a pychopathic madman.

(Actually, this paragraph is mainly in response to Welly's statement above, but I'm putting it here because it looks neater.) Here is where we begin to move into a double standard. We call Hitler evil because he sought to destroy those who he (incorrectly) saw as evil. At the same time, we claim that the destruction of evil is in itself good. But this relies entirely on the assumption that we are right in our assertations of what constitutes evil and who fits with these definitions. If these assertations are incorrect (as seems likely, given that there are about as many definitions of "evil" are there are people to vioce these definitions), then, by our own argument, that would make us evil ourselves.

: I could play the Devil's advocate here, but I won't.

: Finally we've reached a debate level that I can enter
: without blasting off with lots of anger and little
: logic.
: Evil is evil based on its deeds, not its motives.
: (although you can have evil motives, such as destroy
: all Jews the way Hitler did). There is a saying I want
: to say before I send this post; "The path to Hell
: is paved with good intentions." I'll leave that
: food for thought for you guys to feed on.

And what reasoning do you have to support that idea? An idea which, most notably, fails to accept the possible merits of the utilitarian sacrifice of the few for the good of the many? Surely, on occasion, ruthless actions may be necessary for the greater good in the long term, which would certainly seem to suggest that motives are important. Just look at Alric: most of us would agree that he is a good person, yet I think we would all agree that sending the Legion to their deaths at Rhi'anon was, in itself, an immoral action- but one for which Alric can be forgiven due to his high motives and the fact that he was acting for the greater good.

: Seraph

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