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Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.S
By:Masterz1337
Date: 11/13/15 3:57 pm

: I can only tell you what my group of friends both online and offline think.
: But here is my age ranges problem (we were all 12 or 13 when H1 came out)

: 1. Lackluster campaign: None of my friends have any desire to replay it, and
: we all agree its the first campaign we were bored playing through. It's
: the first Halo campaign that didn't have me playing it start to finish
: since H2 in a single sitting. There are many reasons why campaign is not
: good, but in the end no one I know wants to replay it.

: 2. Limited maps and game modes for arena. How many times do I want to play
: the same 4 gamemodes, on around 6 maps? Worse the maps nearly all play the
: same, there is little to no variance in them. Where is doubles? where is
: Multiteam? Where is social slayer? While H4's slayer may have been a flop
: I played more objective in H4 than any other game.

: 3. Warzone is mindless. Sorry, weapon variants, sporadic and unfun AI to
: fight along with the tedious REQ card system makes me not want to touch
: it.

: 4. We are old. Long gone are the days where all my friends who have been
: playing online since H2 can all come home from school or college and sit
: down and enjoy Xbox. We all have lives and responsibilities and it's hard
: to get the old gang together again, or even time to play constantly
: period. The franchise is old and the people who appreciate it, aren't the
: ones who have the time so much to play anymore. 13 year old little Jimmy
: doesn't want a game like the Halo we want, and trying to appeal to
: everyone is Halo's problem.

: 5. The convergence effect. I look at 343 Halo like I do MS's approach to
: windows. It has to appeal to everyone. Take the whole surface line. They
: are decent to use as laptops, they are decent to use as tablets. But they
: aren't the best laptops and they aren't the best tablets. The compromise
: of trying to appeal to so many people leaves no one satisfied. When I was
: at PAX I was showing the SPV3 project to a 343 employee, and talking to
: him all about what we've done with AI in Halo to make it more complex,
: less predictable and requiring the player to think. His response was
: "well thats cool, but that's not really what people seem to want
: these days in a game." To me that's insane. But maybe thats why my
: biggest complaint in why I can't enjoy H5 campaign is because of the
: enemies and the AI. 343 seems to have recognized that one shoe does not
: fit all, with Warzone and Arena. I think Arena is awesome and just wish
: more work was put into the maps and diversity in it. But Arena appeals to
: the classic players, Warzone to the casual and a more contemporary crowd.
: I mean I'd buy a classic smart halo campaign that tries to be as much like
: H1/H3 as possible, and I'd also be highly interested in seeing a new take
: of a campaign modeled after COD or Gears or even Destiny set in the Halo
: Universe. But stop taking what I love about Halo out of Halo to appeal to
: people who don't like Halo.

Also lets not forget that it is a new console generation and the XB1 has had a less than stellar reception and subsequent PR.


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Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.S.?Gravemind11/13/15 5:18 am
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.ScheapLEY11/13/15 9:39 am
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.Sserpx11/13/15 10:57 am
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SCody Miller11/13/15 11:35 am
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SApollo11/13/15 5:57 pm
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SHyokin11/13/15 1:57 pm
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMr Daax11/14/15 12:52 am
                 Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SHyokin11/14/15 2:59 pm
     Split-screenMetalingus62711/13/15 2:27 pm
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SLouis Wu11/13/15 2:36 pm
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SGravemind11/13/15 3:58 pm
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/13/15 3:04 pm
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/13/15 3:57 pm
                 Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SGravemind11/13/15 4:04 pm
                       Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/14/15 12:02 am
                             Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SGravemind11/14/15 1:18 am
                                   Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/14/15 1:28 am
                                         Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/14/15 3:37 pm
                                               Yep. Got it. *NM*Gravemind11/14/15 3:38 pm
     Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.Gravemind11/13/15 3:25 pm
           Kind of a poor gaming sales month in general.uberfoop11/13/15 4:15 pm
                 Re: Kind of a poor gaming sales month in general.Gravemind11/14/15 4:33 am
           More numbers I don't understand...Louis Wu11/13/15 4:16 pm
                 Re: More numbers I don't understand...uberfoop11/13/15 4:22 pm
                       Re: More numbers I don't understand...Louis Wu11/13/15 4:25 pm
                       Not to mentionChrisTheeCrappy11/13/15 5:44 pm
           Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.Cody Miller11/13/15 5:26 pm
                 Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.kidtsunami11/13/15 5:46 pm
                 Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.Gravemind11/13/15 6:01 pm
                       Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.cheapLEY11/13/15 8:13 pm
                             Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.kidtsunami11/14/15 1:49 pm
                                   Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.cheapLEY11/14/15 8:22 pm
                                         Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.Masterz133711/14/15 9:33 pm
                                               Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.cheapLEY11/15/15 1:40 am
                                                     Re: Update: 935k copies sold, including bundles.Masterz133711/15/15 12:35 pm
     Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.Sbluerunner11/13/15 4:00 pm
           Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SMasterz133711/13/15 4:33 pm
                 Re: Halo 5 sold less than 1 mil. copies in the U.SCody Miller11/14/15 1:08 am
           Re: This!Hyokin11/13/15 5:17 pm
                 Re: This!Quirel11/15/15 2:18 am
                       Re: This!munky-05811/15/15 3:07 am
                             Re: This!Quirel11/16/15 2:24 am
                                   A collection of short stories would be nicescarab11/16/15 12:56 pm
                                         Would it be practical?Quirel11/17/15 4:57 pm
           That's the thing...Munky-05811/13/15 7:50 pm
                 Re: That's the thing...Revenant198811/13/15 10:22 pm
                       Re: That's the thing...munky-05811/14/15 2:09 am
                             Re: Uh... and bloom... and that Halo 2 endingkidtsunami11/14/15 2:26 pm
                                   Re: Uh... and bloom... and that Halo 2 endingmunky-05811/14/15 5:19 pm
     Halo needs to be multi-platserpx11/13/15 6:55 pm
     But...Car1511/15/15 9:37 am
           Re: But...davidfuchs11/15/15 10:14 am

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