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Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)
By:Ragashingo
Date: 9/19/13 12:55 am
In Response To: Re: Those drawings are nice. ;) (Stephen L. (SoundEffect))

: What do you think of the Autumn differences? Similar enough to be the same or
: different enough it shouldn't have been tinkered with? :)

The same ship? Absolutely. Yes, there are many differences, which you could enumerate much better than I could, but I find the overall shape and feel of the two models to be far more than similar enough to call the same ship. If you showed me your series of silhouettes and renders, which are very nice by the way, and all I knew about them was one was done for a 2001 game and one was done for a 2010 game not only would I ask if they were from the same series, I'd ask if they were meant to be the same class of ship.

Contrast that to the changes made to the Forward Unto Dawn between Halo 3 and 4. When the new shape of the Dawn was shown (on some of the early Halo 4 concept art I think…) I did not recognize it plain and simple. It took me a few days to even begin accepting that the new shape was still the FUD. Even to this day I only accept it begrudgingly. It's not that I don't like the new version of the FUD, in a vacuum (ha! spaceship joke!) I would likely prefer it to the Halo 3 version, but the changes were far too great and in my opinion the spirit of the ship was very much lost.

P.S. I hope I didn't come off too flippant during our very brief vocal exchange (I'd say online exchange, but this is online too!) I greatly admire what you do and your attention to detail. You've been a great asset to the Halo community over the years. :)


Messages In This Thread

Story info in H4 Essential Visual Guidezofinda9/15/13 10:53 am
     Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideDEEP NNN9/15/13 11:47 am
           Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideStephen L. (SoundEffect)9/15/13 2:32 pm
                 Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideDEEP NNN9/15/13 3:50 pm
     Autumn-class cruiser?Grizzlei9/15/13 11:51 am
           Re: Autumn-class cruiser?zofinda9/15/13 12:24 pm
     Cool! *NM*Revenant19889/15/13 12:03 pm
     Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideCINCLesotho9/15/13 12:07 pm
           Loftus, paging Dr.Loftus *NM*Revenant19889/15/13 1:31 pm
                 Re: Loftus, paging Dr.LoftusStephen L. (SoundEffect)9/15/13 2:34 pm
           I'm confused...Leviathan9/15/13 5:43 pm
                 Re: I'm confused...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/15/13 5:59 pm
                       Re: I'm confused...CINCLesotho9/15/13 7:00 pm
                             Re: I'm confused...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/15/13 7:55 pm
                             Re: I'm confused...Leviathan9/15/13 8:09 pm
                                   Re: I'm confused...CINCLesotho9/15/13 10:03 pm
     Wait...ZackDark9/15/13 1:41 pm
           Re: Wait...Quirel9/15/13 3:56 pm
                 Re: Wait...ZackDark9/15/13 4:40 pm
                       Re: Wait...Quirel9/16/13 12:13 pm
                             Re: Wait...ZackDark9/16/13 8:00 pm
                                   Re: Wait...Quirel9/16/13 9:45 pm
                                         Oh, I see. Agreed and agreed, mate. *NM*ZackDark9/16/13 10:38 pm
                                         So does this mean...gamerguy20029/16/13 10:41 pm
     Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideTDSpiral9/15/13 4:33 pm
           Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideStephen L. (SoundEffect)9/15/13 4:44 pm
           Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual Guidescarab9/15/13 6:44 pm
                 Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideQuirel9/15/13 7:21 pm
                       Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual Guidebryan newman9/16/13 12:38 am
                       Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual Guidescarab9/16/13 2:35 am
                             Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideLeviathan9/16/13 2:53 am
                                   Oh You!scarab9/16/13 3:41 am
                                         Re: You rang? *IMG*Hyokin9/17/13 10:40 am
                                               Re: You rang? *IMG*ZackDark9/17/13 11:56 am
                                               I was looking for thatscarab9/17/13 12:30 pm
                                                     Quick jaunt to DBO: is that you?scarab9/17/13 12:33 pm
                                                           Yes. To both questions. ::evil face:: *NM*ZackDark9/17/13 2:52 pm
                                                           Re: Yes, it's me.Hyokin9/17/13 3:12 pm
                 Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideTDSpiral9/15/13 8:04 pm
                       Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideGrizzlei9/15/13 8:08 pm
                             Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesZohak9/16/13 2:43 am
                                   Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-Reptilesscarab9/16/13 5:25 am
                                         Ooooh, but what if they did?ZackDark9/16/13 9:48 am
                                               I'd rather be a Dinosaur than a Forerunnerscarab9/16/13 12:40 pm
                                         Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesDervish9/16/13 12:22 pm
                                               Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesQuirel9/16/13 12:30 pm
                                                     Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesDervish9/16/13 12:48 pm
                                                           Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-Reptilesscarab9/16/13 12:54 pm
                                                                 Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesDervish9/16/13 1:02 pm
                                               Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-Reptilesscarab9/16/13 12:49 pm
                                                     Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesDervish9/16/13 1:12 pm
                                         Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesQuirel9/16/13 12:24 pm
                                               Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-Reptilesscarab9/16/13 12:37 pm
                                                     Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-ReptilesQuirel9/16/13 12:49 pm
                                                           Re:Kig yar could be like Sauropsid Or Ml-Reptilesscarab9/16/13 1:03 pm
                                         More on evolution and comparative anatomy.Gravemind9/16/13 5:14 pm
                                               Re: More on evolution and comparative anatomy.Gravemind9/16/13 5:30 pm
                                               Re: More on evolution and comparative anatomy.Quirel9/16/13 8:58 pm
                                                     Re: More on evolution and comparative anatomy.Gravemind9/16/13 9:22 pm
                                               Minor correction and addition.Gravemind9/16/13 9:53 pm
     Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual Guideserpx9/15/13 4:41 pm
     Re: Story info in H4 Essential Visual GuideApollo9/16/13 3:35 am
     So I bought the book...Dervish9/16/13 3:22 pm
           Re: So I bought the book...Grizzlei9/16/13 6:16 pm
                 Re: So I bought the book...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/16/13 8:14 pm
                       Re: So I bought the book...Grizzlei9/16/13 8:20 pm
                             Re: So I bought the book...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/16/13 8:34 pm
                                   You're too humble *GIF*Grizzlei9/16/13 9:13 pm
                                         Re: You're too humble *GIF*Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/16/13 10:23 pm
                                               Re: You're too humble *GIF*Grizzlei9/16/13 10:43 pm
                                                     Re: You're too humble *GIF*Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/16/13 10:51 pm
                                                           Re: You're too humble *GIF*Grizzlei9/16/13 11:15 pm
                                                           But they're the same ship…Ragashingo9/16/13 11:38 pm
                                                                 Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 6:46 am
                                                                       Re: But they're the same ship…Ragashingo9/17/13 8:33 am
                                                                             Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 9:38 am
                                                                                   Re: But they're the same ship…Revenant19889/17/13 11:19 am
                                                                                         Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 11:47 am
                                                                                               HBO: We never shaw Loftus' whole work :( *NM*ZackDark9/17/13 11:55 am
                                                                                                     Re: HBO: We never shaw Loftus' whole work :(Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 12:23 pm
                                                                                               Re: But they're the same ship…Revenant19889/17/13 12:27 pm
                                                                                                     Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 12:56 pm
                                                                                                           Re: But they're the same ship…Revenant19889/17/13 1:09 pm
                                                                                                                 Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 2:39 pm
                                                                                                     This is the bestest post ever...Grizzlei9/17/13 3:19 pm
                                                                                         It's funny...Leviathan9/17/13 1:32 pm
                                                                                               Re: It's funny...Ragashingo9/17/13 2:12 pm
                                                                                   Re: But they're the same ship…Ragashingo9/17/13 6:47 pm
                                                                                         Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/17/13 9:30 pm
                                                                                               Fantastic work^Leviathan9/17/13 11:04 pm
                                                                                                     And my actual opinion on the subject.Leviathan9/17/13 11:10 pm
                                                                                                           Re: And my actual opinion on the subject.Ragashingo9/17/13 11:55 pm
                                                                                                     There has never been a post more worthy of a THIS *NM*ZackDark9/18/13 8:52 pm
                                                                                               Re: But they're the same ship…FyreWulff9/18/13 12:57 pm
                                                                                                     What?Leviathan9/18/13 3:14 pm
                                                                                                     Re: But they're the same ship…Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/18/13 5:06 pm
                                                                                               Those drawings are nice. ;) *NM*Ragashingo9/18/13 8:54 pm
                                                                                                     Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/18/13 10:38 pm
                                                                                                           Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)serpx9/18/13 11:26 pm
                                                                                                           Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Ragashingo9/19/13 12:55 am
                                                                                                                 Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/19/13 3:09 pm
                                                                                                                       Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Ragashingo9/19/13 4:27 pm
                                                                                                                             Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/19/13 4:40 pm
                                                                                                                                   Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Ragashingo9/19/13 5:49 pm
                                                                                                                                         Re: Those drawings are nice. ;)Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/19/13 5:57 pm
                                                                                                                       Wait...ZackDark9/19/13 9:16 pm
                                                                                                                             Re: Wait...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/19/13 9:30 pm
                                                                                                                                   Re: Wait...ZackDark9/19/13 9:59 pm
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                                                                                                                                               Re: Wait...ZackDark9/19/13 11:22 pm
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Wait...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)9/20/13 6:29 am
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