: Why not? There's no reason why a female mage can't be
: butt-ugly, regardless of her orientation. Specially if
: you look at the Black Company books from which Myth
: drew...most of the female mages are no more
: particularly stunning than the males. There's some
: pretty ones and some ugly ones. If Mumbo Jumbo makes
: her hot just because it wants to, that has no bearing
: on whether or not she was *supposed* to be hot
: according to Bungie.
: Plus Shiver ought to look a lot better in Myth 3 than in
: Myth 2. She's a thousand years younger! Who knows what
: she went through during the Wolf Age? Self-mutilation
: like Soulblighter, perhaps; possible death and
: resurrection; or just simple aging. (Myth II's Myrdred
: isn't exactly a paragon of beauty either.)
: Well, you certainly don't have to buy GURPS' info on
: Shiver. But without GURPS, there's absolutely no
: information that Shiver was *ever* Living or beautiful
: in known history. (Well, obviously she had to be alive
: at some point before she was unliving/undead, and her
: vanity probably implies that she was once beautiful,
: but this was too long ago to be directly represented
: in Myth lore.) She's a withered undead-looking monster
: in TFL, and she's a withered undead-looking monster in
: Tales. Even if the Myth III guys have looked over
: Bungie's design docs and found that Shiver was alive
: and beautiful in the late Wind Age, she's still
: kentucky fried by TFL.
When I look at the Myth Comic Tales, she is not a withered undead-looking monster until Rabican starts using his dream on her. Look at her it the beginning, she doesn't look THAT bad. However, turn to page 69 or 86 in GURPS. Yuck!!! That is how Shiver looks like since her defeat in Madrigal. I would say she is like a young princess/mage in Myth 3, while Myrdred is a young handsome avatara.
: Nobody. I'm just saying that Bahl'al's power level isn't
: evidence for his being Living, because even if
: Unliving mages are weaker, he could still have
: siphoned power off Balor. We have no way of knowing
: how powerful he would have been without the Leveller
: strengthening him.
What are you talking about? Mazzarin knew that Bahl'al and his army of Thrall would slay him in battle. This happened most likely when there was no Leveler around (towards the end of The Wind Age, right before Connacht came). Shoot, anyone taking down the most powerful archmage ever in Myth history with thrall at his side rulez! Bahl'al is no doubt my favorite character in the Myth story, and that is why...n/m :) (Sili knows though).
