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Re: Very disappointed
By:Quirel
Date: 7/14/16 3:33 am
In Response To: Re: Very disappointed (Tuckerscreator)

: None of those are nearly as mainstream as modern superhero comics

Oh, you think so?

Source

That's for all comic books and graphic novels, not just superhero comics. Granted, superhero comics make up a fat fraction of comic book sales, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the sales figures for superhero comics top 975 million dollars.

Meanwhile, the total sales revenue for romance novels in 2013 is estimated to be about 1.08 billion dollars.

It would be easy to dismiss those sales figures as people buying Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey, but paranormal romance accounts for less than 20% of romance novels and "Sexy millionaire/Billionaire" is less a less popular trope than "Strong hero/Heroine" or "Friends to lovers".'

: Especially
: since they're all books with only a single sexual illustration, not a
: comic book or movie full of them.

Gosh, could it be that women are wired differently than men? Could it be that visual porn*stimulates a neurochemical trigger in guys, and women get a similar rush from reading about emotional bonds between characters? Yes it is.

That image of the beefcake on the front cover of a romance novel isn't supposed to turn women on on its own. It's not the front cover of a Hustler magazine. It's a promise that there will be a dark brooding man with abs and a manly jaw like this one, and the female stand-in for the reader is going to tame him and emotionally bond with him.

*Generalization. There is a market for erotic stories for men, but the content is more pornographic than typical romance novels. My source is a guy I knew in college who made almost a thousand dollars a month writing mind control erotica. =(

: Using little known romance novels

Romance novels account for fifty five percent of all fiction novels sold. They're little-known to you, just like Hawkeye, Loki, and Joker are little more than names to many adult Americans.

: to claim a lack of unequal sexism is like
: someone in the 1860s saying "American slavery isn't racist because
: black people in Africa have slaves too". Both are wrong, but one was
: WAY bigger than the other.

Arguing market share is missing the point, innit? The argument is as follows:

A comic written by a guy claims that defined abs and beefy arms are a male power fantasy, and women fantasize about smooth features and puffy lips.

Romance books, which are marketed towards women far more than comic books are marketed towards guys, have beefcakes on the front covers.

Since book covers are designed and market-tested to grab the audience's attention and sell the book, we can conclude that women do fantasize about guys with well-defined abs and beefy arms.


Messages In This Thread

Lingerie is not ArmorCody Miller6/26/16 8:39 pm
     Re: Lingerie is not Armordavidfuchs6/26/16 10:38 pm
           Re: Lingerie is not ArmorCody Miller6/27/16 12:57 am
                 halo 5, halo warsscarab6/27/16 2:38 am
                 Re: Lingerie is not ArmorMacGyver106/27/16 11:38 am
                       Re: Lingerie is not ArmorCody Miller6/27/16 1:35 pm
                             Re: Lingerie is not ArmorThe BS Police6/27/16 1:42 pm
                             Re: Lingerie is not ArmorMacGyver106/27/16 3:54 pm
                             Re: Lingerie is not ArmorGeneral Vagueness6/28/16 9:16 pm
     Re: Lingerie is not ArmorThe BS Police6/26/16 11:33 pm
           I care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *NM*kidtsunami6/27/16 9:22 am
           Re: Lingerie is not ArmorNikko B2016/27/16 1:20 pm
                 Re: Lingerie is not ArmorCody Miller6/27/16 1:37 pm
                 Re: Lingerie is not ArmorThe BS Police6/27/16 1:39 pm
                 Re: Lingerie is not ArmorThe Loot7/12/16 7:14 am
     Re: Lingerie is not ArmorStretchy6/27/16 1:41 pm
     That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...munky-0586/27/16 5:51 pm
           Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...thebruce06/28/16 9:22 am
                 Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...munky-0586/28/16 10:13 am
                       Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...thebruce06/28/16 2:11 pm
                             Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...munky-0586/28/16 2:33 pm
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...thebruce06/28/16 6:38 pm
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...bluerunner6/29/16 2:23 pm
                                         Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...thebruce06/29/16 6:50 pm
                                               Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...bluerunner6/29/16 10:22 pm
                                                     "I say Zoe gets nekkid... I could get nekkid." *NM*munky-0586/30/16 9:07 am
                                                     Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Quirel7/1/16 12:48 am
                                                           "Woo-woo Wu"? *NM*MacGyver107/1/16 10:51 am
                                                                 This...Louis Wu7/7/16 3:02 pm
           Re: Very disappointedkidtsunami6/29/16 12:49 pm
                 Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness6/29/16 4:27 pm
                       Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/2/16 6:42 pm
                             Re: Very disappointedmunky-0587/2/16 7:28 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/2/16 7:32 pm
                                         Re: Very disappointeddavidfuchs7/2/16 7:39 pm
                                               Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/2/16 7:52 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointedQuirel7/2/16 9:29 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointeddavidfuchs7/2/16 9:59 pm
                                                           ^This guy said it better. *NM*Quirel7/3/16 4:30 am
                                                           Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/3/16 4:58 pm
                                                                 Re: Very disappointeddavidfuchs7/3/16 10:50 pm
                                                                       Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/4/16 4:33 am
                                                                             Re: Very disappointeddavidfuchs7/4/16 9:47 am
                                                                             Re: Very disappointedthebruce07/4/16 10:54 am
                                                                                   Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/4/16 2:10 pm
                                                                 Re: Very disappointedThe Loot7/12/16 7:18 am
                                                     Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/3/16 4:44 pm
                             Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/2/16 7:31 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedQuirel7/2/16 9:02 pm
                                         Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/4/16 2:09 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedthebruce07/4/16 11:00 am
                                         Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/4/16 2:12 pm
                                               Someone doesn't remember Reach... *NM*davidfuchs7/4/16 3:24 pm
                                                     yes that had the best butts in all of Haloscarab7/4/16 3:35 pm
                                                           Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloGrizzlei7/4/16 4:07 pm
                                                                 fem.six.butt.should.be.canon.net *NM*scarab7/4/16 4:28 pm
                                                                 Re: yes that had the best butts in all of Halodavidfuchs7/4/16 4:41 pm
                                                                       Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloGrizzlei7/4/16 7:32 pm
                                                                 Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloQuirel7/4/16 10:02 pm
                                                                       Re: yes that had the best butts in all of Halodavidfuchs7/4/16 11:20 pm
                                                                             Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloGrizzlei7/5/16 7:08 am
                                                                                   They can still do that.Quirel7/5/16 12:13 pm
                                                                                         Re: They can still do that.Grizzlei7/5/16 3:37 pm
                                                                                               Re: They can still do that.Tuckerscreator7/6/16 12:49 am
                                                                                                     Re: They can still do that.Grizzlei7/6/16 12:07 pm
                                                                                         Re: They can still do that.Cody Miller7/5/16 6:04 pm
                                                                                   Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloNikGntre7/23/16 3:34 am
                                                                                         You must have eagle eyesscarab7/25/16 2:11 am
                                                                                               Re: You must have eagle eyesTuckerscreator7/25/16 3:57 am
                                                                                                     Ah! the big image, fem 6, is here *img*scarab7/25/16 4:38 am
                                                                                                           Admins: I just hotlinked directly to an imagescarab7/25/16 4:40 am
                                                                                                                 DOH that doesn't help: a link is a linkscarab7/25/16 4:43 am
                                                                                                                       How's this?Gravemind7/25/16 10:31 am
                                                                                                                             Geez, guys.Kermit7/25/16 12:04 pm
                                                                                                                                   ...Gravemind7/25/16 4:09 pm
                                                                                                                                   Our Savior! :-)scarab7/26/16 12:58 pm
                                                                                                                                   This thread is funniness. *NM*thebruce07/26/16 2:38 pm
                                                                                               Re: You must have eagle eyesNikGntre7/25/16 6:20 pm
                                                                             Re: yes that had the best butts in all of HaloThe Loot7/12/16 7:23 am
                                                                       Re: yes that had the best butts in all of Halomunky-0587/23/16 10:25 am
                                                     I was talking about Sloan. :p *NM*Tuckerscreator7/4/16 7:28 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedThe Loot7/12/16 7:16 am
                                         Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/12/16 1:46 pm
                                               Re: Very disappointedThe Loot7/13/16 12:23 am
                                               Re: Very disappointedscarab7/13/16 12:43 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/13/16 2:24 pm
                                                           That's pretty interesting stuff *NM*scarab7/13/16 2:50 pm
                                               Re: Very disappointedQuirel7/14/16 3:33 am
                                                     Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/14/16 3:38 am
                                                           Re: Very disappointedQuirel7/14/16 4:02 am
                                         Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/12/16 1:56 pm
                                               Re: Very disappointedGrizzlei7/12/16 2:14 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointedChrisTheeCrappy7/12/16 3:36 pm
                                                           Re: Very disappointedGrizzlei7/12/16 5:54 pm
                                                                 Re: Very disappointedChrisTheeCrappy7/12/16 7:12 pm
                                                           Re: Very disappointedQuirel7/14/16 4:28 am
                                               Re: Very disappointedThe Loot7/13/16 12:31 am
                                                     Re: Very disappointedGrizzlei7/13/16 12:48 am
                                                           👍🏾 *NM*kidtsunami7/13/16 11:06 am
                                                           Whatever happened to...Quirel7/14/16 1:44 am
                                               Re: Very disappointedSchooly D7/13/16 4:23 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/13/16 6:44 pm
                                                     Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/13/16 6:58 pm
                                                           Re: Very disappointedSchooly D7/14/16 12:42 am
                                                                 Re: Very disappointedKermit7/14/16 12:39 pm
                                                                       Re: Very disappointedSchooly D7/14/16 12:54 pm
                                                                       Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/14/16 4:08 pm
                                                                             Re: Very disappointedKermit7/14/16 8:24 pm
                                                                                   Re: Very disappointedthebruce07/15/16 9:44 am
                                                                                         Re: Very disappointedKermit7/15/16 2:28 pm
                                                                             Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/14/16 8:44 pm
                                                                 Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/14/16 8:20 pm
                                                                 Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/14/16 8:50 pm
                                                                       Re: Very disappointedCody Miller7/15/16 3:08 pm
                                                                             Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/15/16 6:50 pm
                                                                                   Sorry SchoolyCody Miller7/19/16 7:04 pm
                             Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/3/16 12:40 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedthebruce07/4/16 11:05 am
                                         Re: Very disappointedGeneral Vagueness7/5/16 4:17 pm
                                   Re: Very disappointedTuckerscreator7/4/16 2:14 pm
                                         Re: Very disappointedThe BS Police7/4/16 3:43 pm
                                               ........ *NM*kidtsunami7/4/16 3:47 pm
                                                     Neogaf measured it *NM*The BS Police7/5/16 1:41 am
                                                           So did Mr. Loftus. *NM*Quirel7/5/16 2:14 am
                                                                 OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?scarab7/5/16 2:44 am
                                                                       Re: OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?MacGyver107/5/16 1:41 pm
                                                                       Re: OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?davidfuchs7/6/16 1:10 pm
                                                                       Re: OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?Stephen L. (SoundEffect)7/7/16 12:16 pm
                                                                             Re: OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?scarab7/8/16 2:36 am
                                                                                   Re: OK Mr Loftus what are Sloans dimensions?Stephen L. (SoundEffect)7/8/16 9:54 am
           Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Kermit7/7/16 12:10 pm
                 My kingdom for an edit button over here! :) *NM*Kermit7/7/16 12:48 pm
                 Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Cody Miller7/7/16 5:51 pm
                       Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Kermit7/7/16 7:22 pm
                 Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...General Vagueness7/8/16 5:58 pm
                       Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Kermit7/8/16 7:46 pm
                             Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...General Vagueness7/9/16 2:11 am
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Tuckerscreator7/9/16 3:47 am
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Kermit7/9/16 7:39 pm
                                         Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...General Vagueness7/11/16 11:24 pm
                             Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Cody Miller7/15/16 3:39 pm
                                   +1 *NM*kidtsunami7/15/16 4:30 pm
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...General Vagueness7/15/16 6:27 pm
                                         Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Cody Miller7/15/16 8:20 pm
                                   Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...Kermit7/17/16 7:42 pm
                                         Re: That modern-feminist trash is frustrating...General Vagueness7/18/16 1:49 pm
     Re: Lingerie is not ArmorGrizzlei6/27/16 6:14 pm
           +1 *NM*kidtsunami6/27/16 6:19 pm
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