: A reminder: it's been debunked, and no one brought it up here, and no one
: defended it after you brought it up, so you didn't need to argue against
: it in the first place, and you definitely don't need to argue against it
: again.

Didn’t need to, but considering I see that statistic everywhere regardless, I thought of it when I constructed my hypothetical.

: If that was what you took issue with you could've made that a lot more clear.

: Yeah, except whether you or I agree with it or not, it's not coming from the
: the same place.

Doesn’t matter if it comes from the same place. The impulse to control and infantilize others (as being unable, for example, to distinguish between fantasy from reality) is the same. (And let’s give credit to thebruce, whose arguments in part were about kids, who obviously are a lot closer to infancy.)

: I know you're not the first, that's part of what bothers me. Your argument
: resembles some common and indeed stereotypical arguments against what is
: admittedly an... issue-y(?) brand of feminism or gender equality or
: whatever. (No, I shouldn't hold the opinions of other people that have
: similar arguments against you, and I'm trying not to.) There is hypocrisy
: to be found, and other problems, but it's almost impossible to actually
: talk about unless you specify which philosophy and which group you're
: talking about ("third-wave feminism" and "Tumblr
: feminism" mean very different things to different people, and some
: people will make a distinction between what they're supposed to mean and
: what they mean in practice).

I’ve lost track of all the current flavors, frankly. I was a pretty avid feminist until my mid-twenties, when the self-loathing that seemed to be required got to be a bit much (and I realized that men weren’t the only humans capable of being pigs). Nowadays, the less concrete the theory, the more skeptical I am. When it comes to real stats, women in this country are doing pretty well, and it bothers me how little concern I hear about women in non-Western countries. I’ll stop making off-point points now.

: Yes, I was referring to those conversations, and obviously I still think he
: did not have good points. If I was going to get more in depth on it
: again, I might use the word "puritanical" myself.

I get it. You personally found Cortana less sexy in H4 and therefore don’t see the issue with kids seeing her. I really believe that on the first point you’re an outlier. The second issue I think is a parental prerogative. You can disagree with a parent who doesn’t want (what looks to them to be) a naked woman in their kids’ games, but it’s not your call.

: You say that, but you often speak up when these kinds of issues come up. What
: is it, you change your mind every time, or somehow it only becomes
: inappropriate when it's more than one post? Whatever it is, you keep
: avoiding elaborating on what you mean and what you have the opinions you
: have and what your thought process is (and it's not super easy to get
: ahold of you).

Do I often speak up when these issues come up? I am weak, I guess, because the smart thing to do is run for the hills. If you want to know in what direction my thinking goes these days is, I invite you to seek out Camille Paglia interviews on the subject or drop by the factual feminist youtube channel. I mostly agree with these women regarding the current state of feminism. I’m also not comfortable having this discussion here because for some people, it is tantamount to discussing religion, and it’s also hard to discuss properly without getting into politics—two subjects verboten on the forum (ALL PRAISE LORD HIGH MASTER WU!).

Peace to you all, you virtual killers of virtual aliens. I’m okay, you’re okay.