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Re: Wow, slow forum lately.
By:scarab
Date: 5/7/13 3:11 pm
In Response To: Re: Wow, slow forum lately. (RC Master)

: There is a hundred team-building projects they could have undertaken first
: before launching into Halo 4. But they didn't.

The team was growing at a geometric rate as they built the game. I doubt that they could wait until they had assembled everybody before they started making the game.

Whatever team building they could do at the start would only reach a tiny fraction of the their final numbers.

I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what they did or what I would have done differently.

Irrespective of what happened then: they need to move on.

I didn't like what they did with the existing art assets, especially the characters, especially the Covenant. I suggest that they respect the old material more and that they drop the bad is ugly trope. It's boring. I think that they should respect our enemies more and I think that the best way to do that is to make them handsome, like a mantis shrimp is handsome ;-) I want to fight enemies that deserve my respect.

I'd like to see core gameplay tightened up. I think that Hog driving is broken and I've made posts on how to improve it.

They need to integrate sound and music better. It was good for Bungie that their composer was also in charge of the sound engine (I don't mean that he wrote it). They need someone who will champion all aspects of the audio mix: ambient, foot steps, gun fire, dialog, music. They need someone who understands all that from a technical and artistic viewpoint. Context sensitive dialogue need more work, they need someone committed to making it work and they need the collaboration between: coders to create the hooks/triggers that will detect the conditions under which the AI should initiate dialog, level designers to consider contextual dialog in scripts, and writers to write the dialogue.

I think that they should make changes to the engine to support SF environments, for example: spinning gravity asteroid interiors. Like the interior of Rama. That way their asteroid interiors wont just be caves with nighttime outside them.

They needed more combinations of sounds. Chief walking on rock, Chief walking on metal, on grass. Melee rock, melee metal, etc, etc. Could anyone confidently tell the difference in Elite footsteps above them or Grunt or Hunter footsteps above them? Every enemy just sounded heavy. I suspect that they just didn't have the time to capture all the noises they needed but, perhaps, they just didn't realize that they needed to do this. Maybe they thought that what they had done was good enough.

Maybe they should consider modeling different acoustic environments. Don't just have different sounds for different surfaces. Try modeling narrow metal walled corridors, outdoor spaces, grass floors, rock floors. That way they get an explosion of different environment sounds without having to record: chief punches metal in narrow corridor, chief punches metal in open space, etc.

If they want to be really clever try modeling dynamic soundscapes. I'm thinking of what would happen to the echoes if you are near a rock wall in an open area and a Mammoth drives past nearby. You are in an open space, then a narrow space, then an open space again. What would BR fire sound like as the Mammoth drives by?

I think that working on the soundscapes can make the worlds more immersive in a way that works below the conscious mind.

Anyway, those are some of my suggestions. there are things that they can do and they just need to get the right combinations of guys together to make things happen. I think that they need more cross-functional communication and collaboration. Put casters on your desks guys! :-)


Messages In This Thread

Wow, slow forum lately. *NM*pete_the_duck5/6/13 3:03 pm
     Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Revenant19885/6/13 3:13 pm
           Re: Wow, slow forum lately.serpx5/6/13 3:17 pm
           Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Pkmnrulz2405/6/13 4:29 pm
                 Re: Wow, slow forum lately.pete_the_duck5/6/13 5:23 pm
                       "Well THERE'S your problem." *NM*Chewbaccawakka5/6/13 5:43 pm
                       Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Pkmnrulz2405/7/13 9:13 am
                             Re: PiiiiiiiiiiiikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaRevenant19885/7/13 12:16 pm
                       Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/13/13 3:31 pm
                 Re: Wow, slow forum lately.GrimBrother One5/6/13 5:37 pm
                       Re: Wow, slow forum lately.RC Master5/6/13 6:50 pm
                             Re: Wow, slow forum lately.GrimBrother One5/6/13 7:00 pm
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.uberfoop5/6/13 7:29 pm
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Kermit5/7/13 1:04 am
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/13/13 3:36 pm
                                               Re: Wow, slow forum lately.TDSpiral5/13/13 7:19 pm
                                                     Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/14/13 12:40 am
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.RC Master5/7/13 7:31 am
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.scarab5/7/13 3:11 pm
                                               Would a passing Hog create doppler effects? *NM*scarab5/7/13 3:14 pm
                                                     Hmm...gamerguy20025/7/13 9:11 pm
                                                           Re: Hmm...Kermit5/7/13 9:36 pm
                                                                 Re: Hmm...gamerguy20025/7/13 10:34 pm
                                                                 Re: Hmm...Avateur5/7/13 11:16 pm
                                                                       Re: Hmm...Kermit5/8/13 1:40 am
                                                                 Re: Hmm...Pkmnrulz2405/9/13 8:14 am
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/13/13 3:41 pm
                             Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Grizzlei5/6/13 8:25 pm
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Chewbaccawakka5/7/13 1:45 am
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Grizzlei5/7/13 2:03 am
                                               Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Chewbaccawakka5/7/13 3:03 am
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Cody Miller5/7/13 11:35 am
                                               Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Kermit5/8/13 2:11 am
                                               Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/13/13 3:45 pm
                       Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Quirel5/6/13 7:58 pm
                             Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Louis Wu5/6/13 8:30 pm
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Captain Spark5/6/13 8:59 pm
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Revenant19885/6/13 9:08 pm
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Grizzlei5/6/13 9:09 pm
                                   Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Quirel5/6/13 9:25 pm
                                         Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Ducain5/7/13 1:05 pm
                       Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Avateur5/6/13 10:08 pm
                             Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Schooly D5/7/13 2:48 am
                             Re: Wow, slow forum lately.General Vagueness5/13/13 3:21 pm
                 Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Cody Miller5/7/13 11:56 am
                       So what's wrong with H4 is all Cody's faultCaptain Spark5/7/13 1:29 pm
           Re: Wow, slow forum lately.LostSpartan9875/6/13 4:55 pm
                 HBO Planetside?Nikko B2015/6/13 5:25 pm
     Netcraft confirms itCody Miller5/6/13 4:14 pm
     Re: Wow, slow forum lately.ZackDark5/6/13 4:29 pm
     It's my fault.GrimBrother One5/6/13 5:22 pm
     Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Asian Inferno5/13/13 11:30 pm
           Re: Wow, slow forum lately.Pkmnrulz2405/14/13 7:18 am
                 I think you are finally seeing the light.Revenant19885/14/13 10:39 am
                       ^ this. Well said :) *NM*Lawnmower1725/14/13 12:23 pm
                       Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Avateur5/14/13 10:04 pm
                             Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Revenant19885/14/13 10:51 pm
                                   Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Avateur5/15/13 12:40 am
                                         Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Louis Wu5/15/13 10:19 am
                                               Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Avateur5/15/13 8:40 pm
                                   Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Quirel5/15/13 2:01 am
                                   Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.munky-0585/15/13 2:04 am
                                   Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Stephen L. (SoundEffect)5/15/13 7:37 am
                                         Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Hyokin5/15/13 12:06 pm
                                         Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.thebruce05/16/13 11:46 am
                                   Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.thebruce05/16/13 11:41 am
                                         Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Revenant19885/16/13 12:49 pm
                                               Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.thebruce05/16/13 1:23 pm
                                               Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.Avateur5/16/13 8:56 pm
                       Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.General Vagueness5/15/13 3:19 am
                       Re: I think you are finally seeing the light.thebruce05/16/13 11:38 am

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