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Hmm...
By:Louis Wu
Date: 7/5/14 1:42 pm
In Response To: 343 at RTX Live - now (Louis Wu)

All the discussion of changes to Ascension - I'm not at all sure that this stuff makes sense. :( (They kept talking about how their overriding goal was to not remove anything, but still add stuff.)

Allowing the small tower sniper access from below totally changes the time it takes to get there; now, instead of going up and around, you can drop through the teleporter - it probably cuts 5 seconds off the grab time (and that time was crucial in lots of gametypes). Likewise, the shield in the middle... it totally kills the ability of snipers at small tower to pick off folks at big tower (well, left and center, at least). That's a pretty big change that messes with really common strategies.

It also looks like you can climb along the rocks on the outside of the curved ramp at the bottom of big tower - that might not be bad, but I bet it makes changes in how people assault that area, maybe in ways that aren't fully understood yet.

I dunno. I guess the original map is there for folks who want it - but the idea that 'we can make changes like this and NOT affect the original gameplay, just add to it' is a silly one.


Messages In This Thread

343 at RTX Live - nowLouis Wu7/5/14 1:06 pm
     Halo 2 has Campaign scoring! *NM*Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)7/5/14 1:08 pm
           Re: Halo 2 has Campaign scoring!Revenant19887/5/14 2:20 pm
                 Re: Halo 2 has Campaign scoring!Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)7/5/14 2:26 pm
                 Okay, more things I've noticed.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)7/6/14 12:34 pm
                       Re: Okay, more things I've noticed.zofinda7/6/14 1:17 pm
           Re: Halo 2 has Campaign scoring!General Vagueness7/5/14 4:20 pm
     Great backstory from Max HobermanLouis Wu7/5/14 1:29 pm
           Re: Great backstory from Max HobermanRevenant19887/5/14 1:31 pm
                 Re: Great backstory from Max HobermanStephen L. (SoundEffect)7/5/14 3:54 pm
     Ascension AnniversaryPostmortem7/5/14 1:33 pm
           Re: Ascension AnniversaryStephen L. (SoundEffect)7/5/14 3:57 pm
                 Re: Ascension AnniversaryUrban Reflex7/5/14 4:57 pm
                       Re: Ascension AnniversaryStephen L. (SoundEffect)7/5/14 6:55 pm
                 Re: Ascension AnniversaryQuirel7/9/14 12:05 am
     Hmm...Louis Wu7/5/14 1:42 pm
           Re: Hmm...TDSpiral7/5/14 2:02 pm
                 Re: Hmm...Postmortem7/5/14 2:06 pm
                       Race Returns!padraig087/5/14 3:08 pm
                 Re: Hmm...Revenant19887/5/14 2:11 pm
           Re: Hmm...serpx7/5/14 2:27 pm
           Re: Hmm...DEEP NNN7/5/14 3:03 pm
           Re: Hmm...VAVA Mk27/5/14 3:11 pm
           Re: Hmm...Chris101b7/5/14 7:58 pm
           Re: Hmm...FyreWulff7/6/14 3:47 am
     Holy crap...Louis Wu7/5/14 1:56 pm
           Re: Holy crap...Pkmnrulz2407/5/14 2:00 pm
                 Re: Holy crap...Louis Wu7/5/14 2:01 pm
     Questions = *facepalm*Pkmnrulz2407/5/14 2:03 pm
           Re: Questions = *facepalm*TDSpiral7/5/14 2:05 pm
           Re: Questions = *facepalm*Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)7/5/14 2:08 pm
           Re: Questions = *facepalm*serpx7/5/14 2:15 pm
     What a way to end the panel.Postmortem7/5/14 2:04 pm
     Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseRevenant19887/5/14 2:05 pm
           Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseTDSpiral7/5/14 2:08 pm
           Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosezofinda7/5/14 2:08 pm
                 Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseChris101b7/5/14 8:02 pm
           Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosePostmortem7/5/14 2:08 pm
                 Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseRevenant19887/5/14 2:17 pm
                       Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseserpx7/5/14 2:20 pm
                       Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosePkmnrulz2407/5/14 2:20 pm
                       Dude, RevenantAvateur7/5/14 9:37 pm
                             Re: HA!Hyokin7/6/14 10:27 am
                                   I don't like that comparison.Quirel7/6/14 10:51 am
                                         You guys bum me out.Postmortem7/6/14 11:25 am
                                               Re: You guys bum me out.Hyokin7/6/14 11:34 am
                                               Re: You guys bum me out.DEEP NNN7/6/14 11:54 am
                                                     Re: You guys bum me out.Avateur7/6/14 3:12 pm
                                                           Re: You guys bum me out.DEEP NNN7/6/14 4:30 pm
                                                                 Re: You guys bum me out.Avateur7/6/14 7:42 pm
                                                                       Re: You guys bum me out.Louis Wu7/6/14 11:18 pm
                                                                             Re: You guys bum me out.Avateur7/6/14 11:52 pm
                                                                                   Could we all just take a chill pill? *NM*Quirel7/6/14 11:56 pm
                                                     Re: You guys bum me out.Gravemind7/8/14 8:08 pm
                                                           Re: You guys bum me out.gamerguy20027/8/14 11:39 pm
                                               Hear hear *NM*Urban Reflex7/6/14 12:07 pm
                                               Re: You guys bum me out.Quirel7/6/14 1:49 pm
                                               Re: You guys bum me out.Avateur7/6/14 3:06 pm
                                               Re: You guys bum me out.Revenant19887/6/14 4:47 pm
                                         Re: I don't like that comparison.Hyokin7/6/14 11:25 am
                             Re: Dude, RevenantRevenant19887/6/14 4:58 pm
                                   Re: Dude, RevenantAvateur7/6/14 7:47 pm
                             Re: Dude, RevenantJironimo7/7/14 1:05 pm
                 Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseRC Master7/5/14 4:52 pm
                       Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosePkmnrulz2407/5/14 5:46 pm
                       Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosePhoenix_92867/5/14 5:51 pm
                             Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseGeneral Vagueness7/5/14 6:28 pm
                                   But equally as crappy. *NM*Pkmnrulz2407/5/14 7:02 pm
                             What you just wrote...Quirel7/5/14 8:09 pm
                             Derp...RC Master7/6/14 10:26 am
                                   Re: Derp...Hyokin7/6/14 10:31 am
                                   Re: Derp...Phoenix_92867/6/14 12:28 pm
                                         Re: Derp...RC Master7/6/14 4:49 pm
                                               Re: Derp...Hyokin7/6/14 9:16 pm
                                                     Re: Derp...uberfoop7/6/14 9:38 pm
                 Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseQuirel7/5/14 8:49 pm
                       Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungooseBanditORR7/5/14 10:22 pm
                             Re: Soooo the stuff they added, like the gungoosePhoenix_92867/6/14 12:10 am
                                   Great read! *NM*Quirel7/6/14 1:09 pm
                       Re: You guys are forgetting it's main role.Hyokin7/6/14 10:37 am
     Great panelserpx7/5/14 2:06 pm
           Re: Great panelArteenEsben7/5/14 11:07 pm
     Re: 343 at RTX Live - nowVAVA Mk27/5/14 2:41 pm
           Re: 343 at RTX Live - nowserpx7/5/14 2:54 pm
                 Re: 343 at RTX Live - nowVAVA Mk27/5/14 3:07 pm
                       Re: 343 at RTX Live - nowPostmortem7/5/14 3:18 pm
           Here you go!Chris101b7/5/14 5:28 pm
     Anyone got a tl;dr?UnrealCh13f7/5/14 2:52 pm
     They brought back on-screen callouts for new mapsGeneral Vagueness7/5/14 6:33 pm
     If you missed the panel, here is the linkChris101b7/5/14 8:02 pm
           Re: Thanks, Chris! *NM*Hyokin7/6/14 10:38 am

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