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Some clarifications...
Date: 1/28/14 2:20 pm
In Response To: Re: Halo: Post 2552 (Kal)

: This is just a little tongue-in-cheek, but I don't really buy that strain of
: logic for two reasons: 1) The campaign doesn't even mention the name Jul
: M'dama anywhere. As far as Master Chief and Cortana know, this is just a
: group of Covenant scavengers who happened upon the FUD. Requiem is a holy
: land for them, and the Didact is obviously a figure of religious
: importance. The Chief and the UNSC Infinity have no right to be there.
: It's not until the Covies leave the planet and attack the science station
: at Halo that the Didact and the Convenant become the clear aggressors.

: 2) Why the heck do we go back to Requiem for Spatan Ops? What are we doing in
: the first Spartan Ops mission except dropping down and slaughtering Covies
: who are peacefully living in their new holy land? If I came out of Church
: and a squad of Super Soldiers started shooting at me and my friends, damn
: right I'd shoot back!

: The Didact's dead. When I start Spartan Ops, I've never even heard the name
: Jul M'dama. Why is ONI sending me to slaughter these people with whom we
: have a truce? Didn't we just finish fighting them in a war? Why does ONI
: want me to be a unquestioning cog in their new war machine?

: What right do we have to go back to Requiem and slaughter more Covenant six
: months after the events of Halo 4?
Some points:

The Covenant wouldn't have been able to access Requiem had the Chief not drifted by (they spent years after they found Requiem trying to open it.)

We have no indication that the Storm are interested in settling on Requiem (after all Jul wouldn't blow it up if that were so!) As made clear in The Thursday War, he's much more interested in 'liberating' his people from the Arbiter's policies and human influence. He seeks the Didact as an ally. We don't know if he buys the whole religious schtick, but his actions in Glasslands and Thursday War strongly suggest he doesn't (the same cannot be said of his followers.)

As far as having a truce, we've got a truce with the Arbiter's followers, not his enemies, of which Jul is one. We also don't know what they were doing for four years between the events of K5 trilogy and Halo 4, but I don't think they were peacefully making cookies.

Jul is certainly a sympathetic character—his wife gets wiped out and his life ruined because of Telcam and ONI's scheming, to a degree—but he's also not a nice guy either.

Messages In This Thread

Halo: Post 2552serpx1/27/14 12:03 am
     Re: Halo: Post 2552Grizzlei1/27/14 12:27 am
           Re: Halo: Post 2552Kal1/27/14 11:29 am
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552Grizzlei1/27/14 2:48 pm
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552asa1/28/14 11:12 am
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552Kal1/28/14 12:04 pm
                             Some clarifications...davidfuchs1/28/14 2:20 pm
                                   Re: Some clarifications...Kal1/28/14 2:55 pm
                             Re: Halo: Post 2552Grizzlei1/28/14 2:31 pm
                                   Well, that escalated quickly *NM*ZackDark1/28/14 5:57 pm
                                         Obligatory Khaleesi *GIF*Grizzlei1/28/14 6:02 pm
                                               Re: Obligatory Khaleesi *GIF*davidfuchs1/29/14 9:02 am
                                   Re: Halo: Post 2552RANKLANCER1/29/14 1:40 pm
     Re: Halo: Post 2552Postmortem1/27/14 1:55 am
           Re: Halo: Post 2552Quirel1/27/14 2:46 am
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552DHalo1/27/14 6:43 am
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552Postmortem1/27/14 1:59 pm
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552scarab1/27/14 2:28 pm
                             Re: Halo: Post 2552Grizzlei1/27/14 2:45 pm
     Re: Halo: Post 2552Dervish1/27/14 10:32 am
           Re: Halo: Post 2552scarab1/27/14 2:31 pm
     Thank you for this thread. *NM*thebruce01/27/14 11:20 am
     Re: Halo: Post 2552Leviathan1/27/14 11:31 am
           Re: Halo: Post 2552Revenant19881/27/14 11:42 am
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552Leviathan1/27/14 12:07 pm
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552serpx1/27/14 1:28 pm
           Re: Halo: Post 2552Postmortem1/27/14 2:06 pm
           Re: Halo: Post 2552Quirel1/27/14 2:12 pm
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552TDSpiral1/27/14 3:19 pm
                       Dass sum guhd artin'! *NM*The Lionheart1/27/14 6:25 pm
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552kanbo1/27/14 8:27 pm
                       Fantastic! *NM*Kermit1/27/14 8:44 pm
     Re: Halo: Post 2552Revenant19881/27/14 11:58 am
           Re: Halo: Post 2552 (*SP* silentium stuff)asa1/28/14 11:09 am
                 People weren't expecting what we gotdavidfuchs1/28/14 11:23 am
                       Re: People weren't expecting what we gotasa1/28/14 11:41 am
                 Re: Halo: Post 2552 (*SP* silentium stuff)scarab1/28/14 1:15 pm
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552 (*SP* silentium stuff)MacGyver101/28/14 5:05 pm
                       Re: Halo: Post 2552 (*SP* silentium stuff)asa1/29/14 5:11 pm
     Isn't this Post 1,191,311?Arithmomaniac1/27/14 8:08 pm
           Re: Isn't this Post 1,191,311?Louis Wu1/28/14 12:08 am
                 Re: Isn't this Post 1,191,311?thebruce01/28/14 9:50 am
                 If you don't mind me asking...ZackDark1/28/14 10:58 am
                       Re: If you don't mind me asking...Xenos1/28/14 11:48 am
                       Re: If you don't mind me asking...Louis Wu1/28/14 1:01 pm
           Remember the timeCody Miller1/29/14 6:26 pm
                 Re: Remember the timeLouis Wu1/29/14 8:36 pm
                       Re: Remember the timeCody Miller1/29/14 8:56 pm
                 Re: Remember the timeZackDark1/29/14 10:24 pm

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