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Re: I'd argue otherwise, Davey.
By:davidfuchs
Date: 9/4/15 11:06 am
In Response To: I'd argue otherwise, Davey. (Bones)

: Buck flat out says, "I figure if God can hear how scared I am, than so
: can everyone else." And then him and the rest of Fireteam Osiris go
: flipping down the mountain-side like gazelle, charging straight into the
: battle with reckless abandon, pounding through rocks and jumping into
: dropships to punch the snot out a few covenant with perfect fluidity and
: grace before leaping out as it crashes into a fiery explosion, only to
: say, "heads up!". You could argue that that's badass, but I
: can't help but find it totally, completely unrealistic and unrelatable.

: If there's no discernible danger, how can I as the viewer feel the fear that
: Buck's supposedly feeling? How can I relate?

Again, I don't think the cinematic is supposed to be trying to put you in Buck's head or make you relate to that, or even relate to the characters in the sense of "yeah I'd be freaked out". The point is to show how badass they are. Obviously it's not realistic for us, but they're operating in a universe where they are augmented humans in power armor that could break your phones with a shove.

Wanting to have a cinematic that focuses on a character or characters more deeply is certainly one thing (I feel like at some point all fan discussions morph into "wouldn't this have been better?")—and it'd be interesting if the opening bit with Blue Team we're presumably getting before this part of the cinematic approaches things in a quieter fashion. But you still have to judge what you're given based on the terms it's using. Complaining that this introductory scene is bad at showing characterization is akin to me saying that I dislike horror movies because of the scary scenes. Yeah, I may have a point about how the movie would work better, but it would also be turning it into a different genre altogether.


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New Trailer/Opening CinematicVAVA Mk28/31/15 9:52 pm
     Re: New Trailer/Opening CinematicThe BS Police8/31/15 9:56 pm
           Re: New Trailer/Opening CinematicVAVA Mk28/31/15 10:00 pm
     Woah.Grizzlei8/31/15 10:00 pm
           Re: Woah.zofinda8/31/15 10:05 pm
                 Re: Woah.Grizzlei8/31/15 10:14 pm
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                             Re: Woah.Grizzlei8/31/15 10:35 pm
     Holy hell *NM*Apollo8/31/15 10:06 pm
     Why buzzfeed?Revenant19888/31/15 10:07 pm
           Re: Why buzzfeed?VAVA Mk28/31/15 10:11 pm
                 Re: Why buzzfeed?zofinda8/31/15 10:25 pm
                 Re: Why buzzfeed?spu7n1k8/31/15 11:18 pm
                 Re: Why buzzfeed?uberfoop8/31/15 11:41 pm
     Holy crap! That was awesome!Gravemind8/31/15 10:32 pm
           Re: Holy crap! That was awesome!Grizzlei8/31/15 10:34 pm
                 Re: Holy crap! That was awesome!Gravemind8/31/15 10:52 pm
     Re: New Trailer/Opening Cinematicserpx8/31/15 11:02 pm
           Re: New Trailer/Opening Cinematicarithmomaniac8/31/15 11:41 pm
     Re: New Trailer/Opening CinematicMorhek8/31/15 11:15 pm
     Okay.uberfoop8/31/15 11:32 pm
           life must be hard for you *NM*Bounce-A-Gon9/1/15 12:41 am
                 Hey, Mr. Sunshine!Quirel9/1/15 12:43 am
                       that is was bad and shouldnt do it. :P *NM*Bounce-A-Gon9/1/15 1:03 am
                             Re: *Sprays water at Josh* Bad Kitty! *NM*Hyokin9/1/15 1:24 am
                 Needs less tsun-tsun and more dere-dere. ^_^ *NM*Gravemind9/1/15 1:24 am
                       Re: Needs less tsun-tsun and more dere-dere. ^_^tadboz9/1/15 9:20 pm
           Re: Okay.asa9/1/15 12:23 pm
                 Re: Okay.MacGyver109/1/15 1:23 pm
     Impressively cheesy.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)9/1/15 2:06 am
           Good lord fuck off *NM*Apollo9/1/15 9:15 am
           Re: Impressively cheesy.General Vagueness9/2/15 12:17 am
     Meh.Quirel9/1/15 2:22 am
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                 Re: Meh.Quirel9/1/15 11:39 pm
                       Hahakidtsunami9/2/15 10:53 am
           Re: Meh.Cody Miller9/1/15 7:19 pm
                 Re: Meh.Quirel9/2/15 1:49 am
     O_OJaydee9/1/15 2:53 am
           Re: O_Ozofinda9/1/15 4:17 pm
     Nicekidtsunami9/1/15 8:29 am
           Re: Nicedavidfuchs9/1/15 9:32 am
     Best partkanbo9/1/15 12:27 pm
     Enjoyed that. *NM*yakaman9/1/15 1:35 pm
     Age of Ultron called. They want their intro back.munky-0589/1/15 2:29 pm
     Translated the binary at :26Toby Dillman9/1/15 9:16 pm
           Re: Translated the binary at :26thebruce09/2/15 9:48 am
     Re: New Trailer/Opening CinematicGeneral Vagueness9/2/15 1:48 pm
     Michael Bay dreams of things like that... *NM*The Loot9/3/15 4:43 am
     One step forward, two steps backPaused9/3/15 3:15 pm
           Re: One step forward, two steps backGrizzlei9/3/15 3:51 pm
                 +1 *NM*kidtsunami9/3/15 3:57 pm
                 Re: One step forward, two steps backzofinda9/3/15 6:40 pm
                       Re: One step forward, two steps backGrizzlei9/3/15 6:51 pm
                       Re: One step forward, two steps backthebruce09/4/15 10:28 am
                 Re: One step forward, two steps backPaused9/5/15 6:20 pm
     Re: New Trailer/Opening CinematicDrdoctor9/3/15 5:07 pm
           A more clinical/less showy Blue Team? A++ *NM*kidtsunami9/3/15 5:10 pm
     Here's why everything is wrong.Bones9/3/15 9:04 pm
           this forum is dead long live the forum *NM*Bounce-A-Gon9/3/15 9:52 pm
                 So, I take it no thoughts, then? *NM*Bones9/3/15 10:58 pm
           Re: Here's why everything is wrong.Revenant19889/3/15 11:15 pm
                 Re: Here's why everything is wrong.Bones9/4/15 12:03 am
                       Re: Here's why everything is wrong.The BS Police9/4/15 2:26 am
                             Re: Here's why everything is wrong.Masterz13379/4/15 2:58 am
                                   Re: Here's why everything is wrong.Quirel9/4/15 4:22 am
                                         Re: Here's why everything is wrong.thebruce09/4/15 10:32 am
                                               Hate to break it to youkidtsunami9/4/15 10:38 am
                                                     Re: Hate to break it to youthebruce09/4/15 10:41 am
                                                           Re: Hate to break it to youMacGyver109/4/15 11:30 am
                                                                 Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/4/15 11:47 am
                                                                       Re: Hate to break it to youdavidfuchs9/4/15 11:48 am
                                                                             Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/4/15 2:37 pm
                                                                       Re: Hate to break it to youMacGyver109/4/15 11:53 am
                                                                             Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/4/15 12:35 pm
                                                                                   Re: Hate to break it to youMacGyver109/4/15 3:01 pm
                                                                                         Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/8/15 5:41 pm
                                                                                               Re: Hate to break it to youGeneral Vagueness9/8/15 5:57 pm
                                                                                                     Re: Hate to break it to youMacGyver109/8/15 6:15 pm
                                                                                                     Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/9/15 1:51 am
                                                                                                           cite your source q *NM*Bounce-A-Gon9/9/15 5:54 am
                                                                 Re: Hate to break it to youthebruce09/4/15 1:28 pm
                                                                       Re: Hate to break it to youQuirel9/4/15 1:33 pm
                                                           Re: More like football players...*IMG*Hyokin9/4/15 12:06 pm
                                                                 Great Sales pitchBounce-A-Gon9/4/15 12:22 pm
                                                                 Re: More like football players...*IMG*thebruce09/4/15 1:31 pm
                                                     The funny thing about that...munky-0589/4/15 2:51 pm
                                                           Re: The funny thing about that...MacGyver109/4/15 3:12 pm
                                   Re: Here's why everything is wrong.General Vagueness9/4/15 2:15 pm
                             Re: Here's why everything is wrong.Morhek9/4/15 6:20 am
                       Some thoughts and a jokeQuirel9/4/15 1:25 pm
                             Re: Some thoughts and a jokeBones9/4/15 2:00 pm
                                   Re: Some thoughts and a jokeQuirel9/9/15 6:06 pm
                             +1Leviathan9/4/15 2:21 pm
                                   Re: +1thebruce09/4/15 3:48 pm
                 Spartans are power rangersMasterz13379/4/15 12:55 pm
                       Re: That made me so happy.Hyokin9/4/15 4:08 pm
                 Re: Here's why everything is wrong.General Vagueness9/4/15 2:04 pm
           Here's Why That's Irrelevantdavidfuchs9/4/15 9:28 am
                 I'd argue otherwise, Davey.Bones9/4/15 10:27 am
                       Re: I'd argue otherwise, Davey.davidfuchs9/4/15 11:06 am
                             Re: I'd argue otherwise, Davey.Bones9/4/15 12:23 pm
                                   Re: I'd argue otherwise, Davey.thebruce09/4/15 1:51 pm
           The Big Questionserpx9/4/15 3:02 pm
                 Re: The Big QuestionMacGyver109/4/15 3:20 pm
           About all of the negativity here.Quirel9/4/15 3:19 pm
                 Re: About all of the negativity here.Revenant19889/4/15 9:26 pm
                       Re: About all of the negativity here.spu7n1k9/4/15 11:51 pm
                             Re: About all of the negativity here.asa9/5/15 3:45 pm
                             Re: About all of the negativity here.Apollo9/6/15 11:10 pm
                                   The negativity is everywhere.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)9/7/15 2:25 am
                                         ^responds with negativity *NM*Bounce-A-Gon9/7/15 2:37 am
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                                                     Really? *NM*Tex9/8/15 10:58 am
                                         Re: The negativity is everywhere.Jaydee9/7/15 3:41 am
                                               *side eyes* *NM*Grizzlei9/7/15 3:53 am
                                                     Re: *side eyes*thebruce09/8/15 10:04 am
                                               Re: The negativity is everywhere.Bounce-A-Gon9/7/15 3:56 am
                                               Re: The negativity is everywhere.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)9/7/15 8:43 am
                                               Just joined Halo Archive. *NM*robofin1179/7/15 8:21 pm
                                         Re: The negativity is everywhere.bluerunner9/7/15 8:21 am
                                               Re: The negativity is everywhere.Leviathan9/7/15 11:40 am
                                                     Re: The negativity is everywhere.cheapLEY9/7/15 2:24 pm
                                                           Yup. *NM*robofin1179/7/15 8:08 pm
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                                                                                   oh you *NM*kidtsunami9/10/15 8:00 am
                                                           Re: The negativity is everywhere.Quirel9/10/15 2:34 am
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                                         Negativity? On the internet? You don't say?Gravemind9/7/15 2:31 pm
                                         Re: The negativity is everywhere.General Vagueness9/7/15 7:50 pm
                                         Re: Halo 5 seems more Halo than usualkidtsunami9/8/15 12:17 pm
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                                   Re: About all of the negativity here.Quirel9/8/15 5:38 pm
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