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Re: Rate the Halo games
By:uberfoop
Date: 4/23/13 12:43 am
In Response To: Re: Rate the Halo games (Hawki)

: I dunno. I didn't rank them as such, but I consider story, storytelling, and
: canon as effectively three different things that intersect, but are still
: their own entities. IMO, 'Reach' only has shortcomings in the canon area.

That's extremely tricky to pick apart.

A member of a series is a part of a whole, and interacts with other parts of the whole in intricate ways. It's not always easy to isolate what's what, and if anything, it's usually a very bad thing if it is. Between subjects like "story" (you mean plot?), "storytelling," "canon," "aesthetics," and "gameplay," where would you pin things like Halo 3's reference to Halo 1's cartographer building (or, perhaps even more poignantly, the AotCR-style structures)? That's something which could arguably be involved in many of those categories, and all of its effects only exist as a result of cross-game referencing. The resonance feels good.

By contrast, dissonance can feel bad, and failing to build on hanging threads can imply failure to take advantage of membership of a series. When people complain about issues of "canon," they're complaining about things that impacted the effectiveness of the storytelling for them. Splitting these things into exclusive categories doesn't strike me as making much sense. If they were so isolatable, and even an item like "storytelling" has to be treated as a completely intrinsic quality of a product and as a quality which is not affected by related products, why give a crap about things like franchises in the first place?


Messages In This Thread

Rate the Halo gamesCody Miller4/22/13 5:44 am
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesHawki4/22/13 8:15 am
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesDEEP NNN4/22/13 8:58 am
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesbreitzen4/22/13 10:37 am
     Just Might POSSIBLY See A Pattern.Morpheus4/22/13 10:54 am
           Re: Just Might POSSIBLY See A Pattern.Guttsu4/22/13 12:53 pm
     This was actually fun!Grizzlei4/22/13 2:15 pm
           Oooh, one moreGrizzlei4/22/13 2:33 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesLeviathan4/22/13 2:19 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesMacGyver104/22/13 3:12 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesserpx4/22/13 3:57 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesMixmasterchief4/22/13 4:00 pm
     I like Halo Wars and there is nothing you can do. *NM*Vandle Valsher4/22/13 4:37 pm
           Me too. Why haven't we played yet?? *NM*Revenant19884/22/13 9:14 pm
           Multiplayer is fine, campaign (story) has probz *NM*Avateur4/22/13 9:29 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesSonofMacPhisto4/22/13 5:58 pm
           Re: Rate the Halo gamesCody Miller4/22/13 10:33 pm
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesSonofMacPhisto4/23/13 5:44 pm
     Definitive guide, including fish.uberfoop4/22/13 6:44 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesQuirel4/22/13 8:02 pm
           Re: Rate the Halo gamesGrizzlei4/22/13 8:06 pm
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesQuirel4/22/13 11:07 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesAvateur4/22/13 9:27 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesMetalingus6274/22/13 10:08 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesGravemind4/22/13 10:21 pm
           Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/22/13 11:52 pm
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesGravemind4/22/13 11:54 pm
                       You aren't alone. *NM*Quirel4/22/13 11:56 pm
                       Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/23/13 12:03 am
                       Re: Rate the Halo gamesCody Miller4/23/13 4:46 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesiForge4/22/13 10:27 pm
     Lol, Two Betrayals is super controversial. *NM*uberfoop4/22/13 10:52 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesTDSpiral4/22/13 10:56 pm
           Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/22/13 11:09 pm
                 Or probablyMacGyver104/23/13 12:09 am
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesTDSpiral4/23/13 12:27 am
                       Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/23/13 12:35 am
                             Re: Rate the Halo gamesTDSpiral4/23/13 2:25 am
                       A little harsh, perhaps?Leviathan4/23/13 2:19 am
                             DBO: The old folk's home. *NM*uberfoop4/23/13 2:23 am
                                   I resemble that remark. *NM*Kermit4/23/13 4:25 pm
                             Re: A little harsh, perhaps?TDSpiral4/23/13 2:43 am
                                   Re: A little harsh, perhaps?Leviathan4/23/13 12:29 pm
                                         Re: A little harsh, perhaps?Revenant19884/23/13 1:29 pm
           Re: Rate the Halo gamesHawki4/23/13 12:15 am
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesAvateur4/23/13 12:33 am
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/23/13 12:43 am
                       Re: Rate the Halo gamesHawki4/23/13 1:09 am
                             Re: Rate the Halo gamesuberfoop4/23/13 1:45 am
                                   Addendum/Edituberfoop4/23/13 2:21 am
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesTDSpiral4/23/13 2:50 am
                       Re: Rate the Halo gamesZackDark4/23/13 12:02 pm
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesGravemind4/23/13 3:29 am
                 Re: Rate the Halo gamesbreitzen4/23/13 11:55 am
     AND You Forgot One...Morpheus4/23/13 2:49 am
     Just to pile in my two cents...Arithmomaniac4/23/13 4:27 pm
     WAY TOO HARSH ON HALO WARS *NM*SEspider4/23/13 6:26 pm
     Re: Rate the Halo gamesGeneral Vagueness4/25/13 8:53 pm
           You forgot one WTF momentZackDark4/25/13 9:30 pm

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