Ye olde list of complaints
Posted By: Zyrxil	Date: 1/4/01 5:08 p.m.
The following is a list of reasons why Oni could turn out to be a big disappointment that people in Arstechnica forum (http://www.arstechnica.com) posted. They are cut and pasted to save me time, ";"s signify the comments after it are posted by a different person, might be some overlap. Post responses, and not idiotic responses like "If you don't like it don't buy it fucktard!". graphics: like a 32 bit version of Shogo. low detail textures and rather generic architecture and characters. the occasional flare and alpha channel effect round out the measly special effects department. and those image overlays to show that they couldn't do mouth movement like they did with Halflife how many years ago? gameplay: i'm not sure how many times i've elbowed hard into mid-air a good two feet from my target. the combos are booooooring and you're lucky if you land your hits. you can only carry one gun at a time [???!!!] and you spend all your time hitting switches and logging into console machines. NO ONLINE PLAY? ; This game could have been so much more complex, but perhaps seeing as it needs to be playable on a ps2, the aspirations were toned down. There might have been skill points, fighting styles, skills, tools, little side things to do, weapon skills, alternate routes for everything, more ways of sneaking, full multiplayer modes e.g- beatem up DM, CTF, a Commando style mode, loosely based on CS, but with TCTF officers vs Strikers on missions, more stealth emphasized with built in voice communication. Etc, etc. You can see how much bigger Oni could have been. ; The game is pretty basic. Besides the sliding and flips, there aren't any complex maneuvers the person themselves can do. No climbing, precise jumping, lifting/throwing things. So much potential for fun.... Combat seems okay after a while, but the special moves are pretty difficult to pull off on the keyboard. A little more leeway in the control scheme would have helped a lot. Your buddies are pretty stupid. They won't weave towards a guy with a gun, but run directly at him while getting machine gun in the face. You can kill innocents after they give you... *shudder* hypo. No reprimands for that so far! The lack of moves is disheartening. Kick combos are lacking. Graphics are basic. Environments seem stiff and motionless. You won't be destroying things like the king of interactivity, Duke Nukem 3-D. The voices are still horrible. The "villain" doesn't seem very villainous at all. Anime cutscenes are still poor. Konoko's face when she sees the enemy run out at the beginning of the second level is laughable. Shogo kicks this game's ass left and right. Where the hell's the multiplayer? Arena combat is VERY doable for this type of game. Co-op? Capture the flag? Steal the bacon? Football? Time trials? ; Well, both demos have seemed to be pretty easy. The first level the first time I played it seemed kind of approaching difficult, but now is very easy. The first time I played it I did not know about the compass thing. I hope that their is either a difficulty option, or a lot of levels. ; Oni just isn't fun For starters, I hate jumping Also, I'm sick of Lara Croft ripoffs, and I never saw what the big deal was with Lara Croft anyway Hence, I hate games that seem like Tomb Raider to me The tutorial mission is trite The control scheme at least in the demo version I played (I can't imagine buying the real game) was awful and unusable ; I think it has so much more potential, but as it is, after the second play-through, the demo becomes so insanely easy that it's ridiculous. I want to like this game, because I think the style is great, but I just can't bring myself to really get excited about it. The problem is that it is blatantly showing you that it has to be a console game first and a PC game second. Now, I have nothing against console games. I love some console games - I currently can't stop playing ZeldaMM - but this game belongs on a console, and only a console. The lack of precision in the controls, plus the weak combo system, plus the scarcity of enemies in the levels - it all points to a console game. I don't doubt that it would be fun for a little while, but once the shine wears off, I'm sort of worried that there won't be anything else to the game. For a game that promised to be so much more, it's disappointing to see it be so very little. ; Oni doesn't have a complex combat system by any stretch of the imagination, basic compared to today's fighters. It's control scheme is basic compared to yesterday's favorite, Tomb Raider. It's interactivity is basic compared to Build engine games, and its environment is basic compared to... well, almost anything that's actually worth playing. I can see how people who are new to console-style games would dig Oni, but anyone else who digs 2-d or 3-d fighters... I don't see the appeal. ; You can't even pull yourself onto crates! Wtf is with that?? And some mouse sensitivity settings please??

Ye olde list of complaints	Zyrxil	1/4/01 5:08 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Jesse	1/4/01 5:17 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Zyrxil	1/4/01 5:20 p.m.
Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Michael Spencer	1/4/01 5:57 p.m.
nah, he's looking for birds of feather...	Rakki	1/4/01 5:23 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Zyrxil	1/4/01 5:24 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Nijhazer	1/4/01 5:40 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Lemon-Tea	1/4/01 6:01 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Zyrxil	1/4/01 8:13 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	Lemon-Tea	1/4/01 8:18 p.m.
Oops...sorry, Jesse...	Michael Spencer	1/4/01 7:21 p.m.
Re: Oops...sorry, Jesse...	Jesse	1/4/01 10:01 p.m.
Re: Oops...sorry, Jesse...	Michael Spencer	1/4/01 10:21 p.m.
Re: Asking us to debate *opinions*?	BananaFish	1/6/01 12:30 a.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	aneep	1/4/01 5:26 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Zyrxil	1/4/01 5:43 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Zyrxil	1/4/01 5:44 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	aneep	1/4/01 6:03 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	DanPerkins	1/4/01 5:30 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Lokus	1/4/01 7:21 p.m.
Re: Architecture	Twrch	1/4/01 7:59 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Otokam	1/4/01 7:22 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Dan Rudolph	1/5/01 1:21 a.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Harry	1/5/01 2:24 a.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Jesse	1/4/01 11:11 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	aneep	1/5/01 5:24 p.m.
Re: Ye olde list of complaints	Dan Rudolph	1/5/01 2:01 a.m.