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Re: Game Prices.
By:Gravemind
Date: 6/20/15 7:18 pm
In Response To: Re: THIS. (Cody Miller)

: I mean, the issue of DLC fragmentation being a non issue by free maps is a
: HUGE plus, but I can't help but feel that it could have been accomplished
: in other ways. They are not free either. SOMEONE is paying for them. And
: if you aren't that means someone is paying more than they otherwise would.

: I'm beginning to think that simply raising the base price of the game is the
: best solution moving forward. It's amazing we have had the $60 price point
: for as long as we have. Bumping it up to $70 could probably solve so much,
: and have little negative effect in the long run as people get used to the
: price. We're essentially already paying more than $60 bucks for our games
: when we buy special editions and DLC anyway.

It wouldn't be a popular solution, but considering that game prices have been on the decline in inflation-adjusted terms (in the U.S., at least), it is a reasonable one. I mean, look at how much game prices have dropped since the early 90s:

Even with DLC added on you're only talking about reaching the lower to mid-tier price range of 16-bit era games. And before anyone mentions the higher costs of cartridges, let's not forget that the sticker prices on Sega-CD, TurboGrafx-CD, and early PS1 games usually retailed for $50-60 unadjusted. And of course game development costs have increased by several orders of magnitude since the early 90s. An early SNES game may have cost less than $100k to develop, but a modern game can run $20-40M, not including advertising costs.

Honestly, I think DLC is the only thing that's keeping retail costs for games down over time. It's also a low-cost, high-margin product. Finally, it's optional, and I think publishers might stick with the $60 retail cost plus an optional $20-30 of DLC instead of simply bumping the retail cost of the game and then releasing the DLC for free. Many gamers already forget the basic economic reality of inflation and think $60 is "too much" even though games have gotten incredibly more complex and have far more content and longer playthrough lengths than old NES & SNES games did. Best to do what 343i is doing and have the major DLC (map packs and the like) for free and compensate with microtransactions (say, $1 for a weapon or armor skin or $2 for an armor permutation, but nothing that would affect gameplay, however slight). It would ruffle the fewest feathers.

Of course, the above chart may not hold for other countries/regions (I know there's been negligible effective inflation in Japan over the past 15 years or so).


Messages In This Thread

On H5 Req Packs...GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:30 am
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...Grizzlei6/17/15 12:40 am
           Exactly. *NM*GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:57 am
           One other thingGrizzlei6/17/15 1:13 am
           Re: On H5 Req Packs...zofinda6/17/15 8:08 am
     This sucks...munky-0586/17/15 1:28 am
           Re: This sucks...GrimBrother One6/17/15 1:41 am
     No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/17/15 8:39 am
           Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:03 pm
                 Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/20/15 12:25 am
     Nope.profhalo6/17/15 9:45 am
           Re: Nope.Apollo6/17/15 10:39 am
                 Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:03 am
                       Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:28 am
           Re: Nope.Bounce-A-Gon6/17/15 11:21 am
           More $$$ does not = more skill.Revenant19886/17/15 11:28 am
                 Re: More $$$ does not = more skill.General Vagueness6/17/15 4:38 pm
                       THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 11:34 am
                             Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 1:59 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:06 pm
                                         Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:13 pm
                                               Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:25 pm
                                               Re: THIS.The BS Police6/19/15 8:09 pm
                                               Re: THIS.munky-0586/20/15 3:07 am
                                                     Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/22/15 2:14 am
                                                           Re: THIS.The BS Police6/22/15 3:48 pm
                                               Re: Game Prices.Gravemind6/20/15 7:18 pm
                                                     Re: Game Prices.General Vagueness6/21/15 1:48 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)6/19/15 2:35 pm
                             Not THISprofhalo6/19/15 2:58 pm
                                   Re: Not THISuberfoop6/19/15 3:12 pm
                                   Re: Not THISGeneral Vagueness6/19/15 3:13 pm
                                   Re: Not THISLouis Wu6/19/15 4:35 pm
                                         Re: Not THISprofhalo6/20/15 10:43 am
                                               Re: Not THISVincent6/20/15 12:26 pm
                                                     +1 *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/20/15 7:39 pm
                                                     -1profhalo6/21/15 4:02 pm
                                                           Re: -1Vincent6/21/15 6:30 pm
                                                                 Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 8:46 am
                                                                       Re: -1Louis Wu6/22/15 10:41 am
                                                                             Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 1:24 pm
                                                                                   Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 1:42 pm
                                                                                         Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 4:30 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1The BS Police6/22/15 4:43 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 5:03 pm
                                                           Re: -1General Vagueness6/21/15 7:36 pm
                                                                 Re: -1thebruce06/22/15 11:08 am
                                                           Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 9:13 am
                                                                 This is a good postVincent6/22/15 9:53 am
                                                                 Refreshing postprofhalo6/22/15 1:39 pm
                                                                       Re: Refreshing postavatarofchaos6/22/15 2:12 pm
                                                                 Re: -1General Vagueness6/23/15 1:43 pm
           Clarificationsprofhalo6/17/15 12:08 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsChrisTheeCrappy6/17/15 12:16 pm
                       You are right.profhalo6/17/15 1:05 pm
                             Oh, and...Louis Wu6/19/15 11:41 am
                 Re: Clarificationskidtsunami6/17/15 10:40 pm
                       Re: ClarificationsThe Loot6/18/15 5:46 pm
                             a fallacy is will always be a fallacy *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/18/15 5:58 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsLouis Wu6/19/15 11:39 am
           Re: Nope.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:08 pm
                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness6/19/15 3:11 pm
                 Re: Nope.hunt3r6/19/15 6:03 pm
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...General Vagueness6/17/15 4:14 pm
     Unanswered Req questions...munky-0586/18/15 9:30 am
     Everytime I see the topic of REQ packagesThe BS Police6/22/15 4:49 pm
           +7Grizzlei6/22/15 5:00 pm
                 Are you allowed to skip +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and +6? *NM*MacGyver106/22/15 6:02 pm
                       Who's gonna stop me?Grizzlei6/22/15 6:05 pm
                             Re: Who's gonna stop me?MacGyver106/22/15 6:18 pm
                                   haha *NM*Grizzlei6/22/15 6:20 pm
                             We're trying to help you. *NM*Quirel6/22/15 6:18 pm
           This *NM*Apollo6/22/15 9:09 pm
           Niceprofhalo6/23/15 8:27 am
                 Re: NiceThe BS Police6/24/15 12:34 am

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