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Re: Not THIS
By:Louis Wu
Date: 6/19/15 4:35 pm
In Response To: Not THIS (profhalo)

: I don't know what kind of bizarro world I live in where people keep talking
: about how good it is that the enemy team spawns with better weapons and
: vehicles just so they can nonchalantly wander over, kill the enemy and
: take their power/higher level weapon.

: QQ: If power weapons have absolutely no benefit, why does everyone talk about
: why they bother to take them after the kill?

: Face facts people, you might perceive yourself as a lone wolf pro who can
: transcend vehicle and weapon control through pure skill(despite
: matchmaking placing EVERYONE ELSE with people of equal skill), but I
: actually play against people of similar skill levels as me, so I don't
: have that option. For us noobs/badkids/scrubs/whatever, we actually find
: power weapons and vehicles an advantage, we work for them and use them to
: gain an edge. For the 99.9% that aren't as gifted as the
: I-eat-power-weapons-for-lunch-and-vehicles-for-dinner players, we actually
: see buying these things with real world money as something that makes
: gameplay unfair and imbalanced. Maybe not a lot, but arguing that it has
: no effect at all is just denialism to the extreme.

: TLDR: Having better weapons and vehicles than other players is... wait for
: it... BETTER FOR YOU.

Okay, so first off, if you think I perceive myself as a lone wolf pro, you haven't been paying attention.

More importantly, though, I think you might be misunderstanding how the system works. No matter how much money you pour into the system, you'll never be able to spawn with a rocket launcher all the time. Stronger weapons require higher req levels to be unlocked - and that's true in every game you play. (When the game starts, only basic req levels are open. As time goes on (and as you kill more things), your level goes up, and the quality of guns available goes up... and you can requisition whatever you have cards for. So yes, if you have two rocket launcher cards, you can requisition 2 rocket launchers (maybe - see below)... but you'll still need to wait for your level to get up to 7 or 8 (or whatever RLs need) to USE one, each time you die.

The 'maybe' above is because I don't really know how fast the level climbs in a real game. It was massively accelerated at E3, so that folks playing could experience the entire progression without necessarily being shooting gods - I don't know how often you'll even be ABLE to get to level 7 in a real game. In the one game I played, the highest req level was unlocked either 2 or 3 times for me, I can't remember. So a real game will be 1 or 2 times (or maybe 0!), for someone of my skill. Every game (of Warzone) I play, I get a req pack - so I've got a decent chance to have a power weapon in EVERY GAME, without buying anything. (I didn't have that chance in older titles; there were many, many games I played without power weapons.) If I buy packs and have extra Rocket Launchers, but don't build up my energy to the point where I can redeem them, how are you being hurt by the money I spent? (Yes, I know there are people who are better than I am, and yes I know that some of them might buy packs, and get more power weapons, and actually get the chance to USE them - but it's unlikely I'll play them very often, since Matchmaking will keep them in a different pool.)

In older Halo titles, power weapons spawned at known times, in known locations - but you had to get there first, or you had to beat the guy who did, in order to use them. So you certainly aren't complaining that it's unreasonable that we don't all have the same weapons, right?

Nobody's saying that power weapons aren't game changers. What I said above was that buying req packs won't necessarily give you more opportunities to USE them than I'll have without buying them. (If you're putting a scope that adds some tiny amount of spread removal to a BR burst in the same class as a Rocket Launcher or a Sniper Rifle, we're talking different languages, and we probably aren't going to be able to communicate very well.)


Messages In This Thread

On H5 Req Packs...GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:30 am
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...Grizzlei6/17/15 12:40 am
           Exactly. *NM*GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:57 am
           One other thingGrizzlei6/17/15 1:13 am
           Re: On H5 Req Packs...zofinda6/17/15 8:08 am
     This sucks...munky-0586/17/15 1:28 am
           Re: This sucks...GrimBrother One6/17/15 1:41 am
     No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/17/15 8:39 am
           Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:03 pm
                 Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/20/15 12:25 am
     Nope.profhalo6/17/15 9:45 am
           Re: Nope.Apollo6/17/15 10:39 am
                 Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:03 am
                       Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:28 am
           Re: Nope.Bounce-A-Gon6/17/15 11:21 am
           More $$$ does not = more skill.Revenant19886/17/15 11:28 am
                 Re: More $$$ does not = more skill.General Vagueness6/17/15 4:38 pm
                       THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 11:34 am
                             Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 1:59 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:06 pm
                                         Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:13 pm
                                               Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:25 pm
                                               Re: THIS.The BS Police6/19/15 8:09 pm
                                               Re: THIS.munky-0586/20/15 3:07 am
                                                     Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/22/15 2:14 am
                                                           Re: THIS.The BS Police6/22/15 3:48 pm
                                               Re: Game Prices.Gravemind6/20/15 7:18 pm
                                                     Re: Game Prices.General Vagueness6/21/15 1:48 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)6/19/15 2:35 pm
                             Not THISprofhalo6/19/15 2:58 pm
                                   Re: Not THISuberfoop6/19/15 3:12 pm
                                   Re: Not THISGeneral Vagueness6/19/15 3:13 pm
                                   Re: Not THISLouis Wu6/19/15 4:35 pm
                                         Re: Not THISprofhalo6/20/15 10:43 am
                                               Re: Not THISVincent6/20/15 12:26 pm
                                                     +1 *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/20/15 7:39 pm
                                                     -1profhalo6/21/15 4:02 pm
                                                           Re: -1Vincent6/21/15 6:30 pm
                                                                 Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 8:46 am
                                                                       Re: -1Louis Wu6/22/15 10:41 am
                                                                             Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 1:24 pm
                                                                                   Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 1:42 pm
                                                                                         Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 4:30 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1The BS Police6/22/15 4:43 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 5:03 pm
                                                           Re: -1General Vagueness6/21/15 7:36 pm
                                                                 Re: -1thebruce06/22/15 11:08 am
                                                           Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 9:13 am
                                                                 This is a good postVincent6/22/15 9:53 am
                                                                 Refreshing postprofhalo6/22/15 1:39 pm
                                                                       Re: Refreshing postavatarofchaos6/22/15 2:12 pm
                                                                 Re: -1General Vagueness6/23/15 1:43 pm
           Clarificationsprofhalo6/17/15 12:08 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsChrisTheeCrappy6/17/15 12:16 pm
                       You are right.profhalo6/17/15 1:05 pm
                             Oh, and...Louis Wu6/19/15 11:41 am
                 Re: Clarificationskidtsunami6/17/15 10:40 pm
                       Re: ClarificationsThe Loot6/18/15 5:46 pm
                             a fallacy is will always be a fallacy *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/18/15 5:58 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsLouis Wu6/19/15 11:39 am
           Re: Nope.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:08 pm
                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness6/19/15 3:11 pm
                 Re: Nope.hunt3r6/19/15 6:03 pm
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...General Vagueness6/17/15 4:14 pm
     Unanswered Req questions...munky-0586/18/15 9:30 am
     Everytime I see the topic of REQ packagesThe BS Police6/22/15 4:49 pm
           +7Grizzlei6/22/15 5:00 pm
                 Are you allowed to skip +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and +6? *NM*MacGyver106/22/15 6:02 pm
                       Who's gonna stop me?Grizzlei6/22/15 6:05 pm
                             Re: Who's gonna stop me?MacGyver106/22/15 6:18 pm
                                   haha *NM*Grizzlei6/22/15 6:20 pm
                             We're trying to help you. *NM*Quirel6/22/15 6:18 pm
           This *NM*Apollo6/22/15 9:09 pm
           Niceprofhalo6/23/15 8:27 am
                 Re: NiceThe BS Police6/24/15 12:34 am

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