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Re: Not THIS
By:profhalo
Date: 6/20/15 10:43 am
In Response To: Re: Not THIS (Louis Wu)

: Okay, so first off, if you think I perceive myself as a lone wolf pro, you
: haven't been paying attention.

: More importantly, though, I think you might be misunderstanding how the
: system works. No matter how much money you pour into the system, you'll
: never be able to spawn with a rocket launcher all the time. Stronger
: weapons require higher req levels to be unlocked - and that's true in
: every game you play. (When the game starts, only basic req levels are
: open. As time goes on (and as you kill more things), your level goes up,
: and the quality of guns available goes up... and you can requisition
: whatever you have cards for. So yes, if you have two rocket launcher
: cards, you can requisition 2 rocket launchers (maybe - see below)... but
: you'll still need to wait for your level to get up to 7 or 8 (or whatever
: RLs need) to USE one, each time you die.

So you won't spawn with a rocket launcher every time. That is very true. But if you spawn with one you paid for ONCE. That one more time than people who haven't paid for it. One unfair situation is UNFAIR. Very, no, but you can't argue that it is fair.

And as for having to wait to use an unfair advantage, I'm not sure how that is an argument when you eventually get to use it?

: The 'maybe' above is because I don't really know how fast the level climbs in
: a real game. It was massively accelerated at E3, so that folks playing
: could experience the entire progression without necessarily being shooting
: gods - I don't know how often you'll even be ABLE to get to level 7 in a
: real game. In the one game I played, the highest req level was unlocked
: either 2 or 3 times for me, I can't remember. So a real game will be 1 or
: 2 times (or maybe 0!), for someone of my skill. Every game (of Warzone) I
: play, I get a req pack - so I've got a decent chance to have a power
: weapon in EVERY GAME, without buying anything. (I didn't have that chance
: in older titles; there were many, many games I played without power
: weapons.) If I buy packs and have extra Rocket Launchers, but don't build
: up my energy to the point where I can redeem them, how are you being hurt
: by the money I spent? (Yes, I know there are people who are better than I
: am, and yes I know that some of them might buy packs, and get more power
: weapons, and actually get the chance to USE them - but it's unlikely I'll
: play them very often, since Matchmaking will keep them in a different
: pool.)

Once again, lets say I play a million games and ONCE I run into this situation. Bottom line, this is an unfair advantage no matter how often it happens. And what I don't like about it is the developers WANT it that way. In previous Halos, the developers did EVERYTHING in their power to stop and in many cases BAN people who tried to gain an outside advantage in the game. But now that it can be profitable for the company...

: In older Halo titles, power weapons spawned at known times, in known
: locations - but you had to get there first, or you had to beat the guy who
: did, in order to use them. So you certainly aren't complaining that it's
: unreasonable that we don't all have the same weapons, right?

Everyone had an equal IN GAME opportunity to get those power weapons. Now people who pay more money have a better chance of getting power weapons. I LOVE the old system that was fair towards EVERYONE.

: Nobody's saying that power weapons aren't game changers. What I said above
: was that buying req packs won't necessarily give you more opportunities to
: USE them than I'll have without buying them. (If you're putting a scope
: that adds some tiny amount of spread removal to a BR burst in the same
: class as a Rocket Launcher or a Sniper Rifle, we're talking different
: languages, and we probably aren't going to be able to communicate very
: well.)

I'm not complaining about the opportunities to use them, I am talking about when someone has the opportunity, who is more likely to have a powerful vehicle, power weapon or higher level weapon? Is a person who earned 1 req pack going to have to same likelyhood as a person who earned exactly the same(1) but also purchased some more(30)? That is where I see an unfair advantage.
Two people who should have equal chances in game, DONT.

And as for your last part, I am confused, are you arguing more accurate BRs are not better than normal BRs?


Messages In This Thread

On H5 Req Packs...GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:30 am
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...Grizzlei6/17/15 12:40 am
           Exactly. *NM*GrimBrother One6/17/15 12:57 am
           One other thingGrizzlei6/17/15 1:13 am
           Re: On H5 Req Packs...zofinda6/17/15 8:08 am
     This sucks...munky-0586/17/15 1:28 am
           Re: This sucks...GrimBrother One6/17/15 1:41 am
     No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/17/15 8:39 am
           Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:03 pm
                 Re: No, it fucking doesn't.Azo 'Galvat6/20/15 12:25 am
     Nope.profhalo6/17/15 9:45 am
           Re: Nope.Apollo6/17/15 10:39 am
                 Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:03 am
                       Re: Nope.zofinda6/17/15 11:28 am
           Re: Nope.Bounce-A-Gon6/17/15 11:21 am
           More $$$ does not = more skill.Revenant19886/17/15 11:28 am
                 Re: More $$$ does not = more skill.General Vagueness6/17/15 4:38 pm
                       THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 11:34 am
                             Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 1:59 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:06 pm
                                         Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:13 pm
                                               Re: THIS.Louis Wu6/19/15 2:25 pm
                                               Re: THIS.The BS Police6/19/15 8:09 pm
                                               Re: THIS.munky-0586/20/15 3:07 am
                                                     Re: THIS.Cody Miller6/22/15 2:14 am
                                                           Re: THIS.The BS Police6/22/15 3:48 pm
                                               Re: Game Prices.Gravemind6/20/15 7:18 pm
                                                     Re: Game Prices.General Vagueness6/21/15 1:48 pm
                                   Re: THIS.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)6/19/15 2:35 pm
                             Not THISprofhalo6/19/15 2:58 pm
                                   Re: Not THISuberfoop6/19/15 3:12 pm
                                   Re: Not THISGeneral Vagueness6/19/15 3:13 pm
                                   Re: Not THISLouis Wu6/19/15 4:35 pm
                                         Re: Not THISprofhalo6/20/15 10:43 am
                                               Re: Not THISVincent6/20/15 12:26 pm
                                                     +1 *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/20/15 7:39 pm
                                                     -1profhalo6/21/15 4:02 pm
                                                           Re: -1Vincent6/21/15 6:30 pm
                                                                 Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 8:46 am
                                                                       Re: -1Louis Wu6/22/15 10:41 am
                                                                             Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 1:24 pm
                                                                                   Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 1:42 pm
                                                                                         Re: -1profhalo6/22/15 4:30 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1The BS Police6/22/15 4:43 pm
                                                                                               Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 5:03 pm
                                                           Re: -1General Vagueness6/21/15 7:36 pm
                                                                 Re: -1thebruce06/22/15 11:08 am
                                                           Re: -1avatarofchaos6/22/15 9:13 am
                                                                 This is a good postVincent6/22/15 9:53 am
                                                                 Refreshing postprofhalo6/22/15 1:39 pm
                                                                       Re: Refreshing postavatarofchaos6/22/15 2:12 pm
                                                                 Re: -1General Vagueness6/23/15 1:43 pm
           Clarificationsprofhalo6/17/15 12:08 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsChrisTheeCrappy6/17/15 12:16 pm
                       You are right.profhalo6/17/15 1:05 pm
                             Oh, and...Louis Wu6/19/15 11:41 am
                 Re: Clarificationskidtsunami6/17/15 10:40 pm
                       Re: ClarificationsThe Loot6/18/15 5:46 pm
                             a fallacy is will always be a fallacy *NM*Bounce-A-Gon6/18/15 5:58 pm
                 Re: ClarificationsLouis Wu6/19/15 11:39 am
           Re: Nope.Cody Miller6/19/15 2:08 pm
                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness6/19/15 3:11 pm
                 Re: Nope.hunt3r6/19/15 6:03 pm
     Re: On H5 Req Packs...General Vagueness6/17/15 4:14 pm
     Unanswered Req questions...munky-0586/18/15 9:30 am
     Everytime I see the topic of REQ packagesThe BS Police6/22/15 4:49 pm
           +7Grizzlei6/22/15 5:00 pm
                 Are you allowed to skip +1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and +6? *NM*MacGyver106/22/15 6:02 pm
                       Who's gonna stop me?Grizzlei6/22/15 6:05 pm
                             Re: Who's gonna stop me?MacGyver106/22/15 6:18 pm
                                   haha *NM*Grizzlei6/22/15 6:20 pm
                             We're trying to help you. *NM*Quirel6/22/15 6:18 pm
           This *NM*Apollo6/22/15 9:09 pm
           Niceprofhalo6/23/15 8:27 am
                 Re: NiceThe BS Police6/24/15 12:34 am

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