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I've got a good one for ya...
By:SEspider
Date: 5/18/13 4:07 pm
In Response To: You know what's funny... (Hyokin)

"... before this is all over, promise me you'll find out which one of us is the machine."

Source:
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Cortana/Quotes

The humanity in Halo's Multiplayer has gone out the window for good when the TU for Reach was released. Heck, I'd go as far as saying it went out the window when Halo MP was put on Xbox Live. Players have become so focused on "winning" and "balance" that neither exist in the game anymore.

Remember when MP was about physically getting with friends and having fun? Online play comes and that immediately goes away (for the most part). Friends and I use to get together every week or so for lan parties and fellowship. It wasn't always Halo either. We often gave tips on how to beat games like Kameo (that game was a pain at times) and show one another exactly HOW to beat a difficult boss or puzzle.

Today, players don't even see one another at all. Sure, there may be advice given but there's no fellowship nor one on one interaction. There's no "Showing" tips. Instead it through YouTube or written word. It's like going to football practice while all your teammates are sitting at home staring at their computers and your couch is "coaching" over the phone. I miss the fellowship. I've lost contact with all but one of my old friends now. And it saddens me. Sure I'm friends with you guys but it's just not the same as having someone nest to me to push and goof off with.

The Title Updates on Reach caused a HUGE divide as you stated, John. And Halo4 is already doing it. I love Snipers and Swat. It test my skills and puts pressure to do well. But there are players here that hate it more then the Flood from past games (which I also love). There are players that love the TU in Reach, but I hate it because it ruins the balance. After Last Night, I'm officially done with Halo Reach. I HATE being shot across a large map with a DMR only to die after 2-3 shots. I HATE that I can't get kills when I get the drop on them and they simply have to turn and DMR me. I HATE Armor Lock. I HATE the TU melee system. I HATE that the pistol is so strong. I HATE that there's how the Vehicles drive. I use to be good at Reach. But the last two times I played, I was always in the negative due to the stupid TU giving unskilled players "lucky" kills from across the map. I couldn't even get any sniper shots due to the overpowered DMR in Reach last night! And in Reach, Sniping was my thing!! At least in Halo4 the overpowered DMR is semi counted with not being able to knock the sniper out of zoom. I don't mind being knocked out of zoom while sniping. But it shouldn't be from across Hemorrhage with a DMR or Pistol! It's Stupid!!

I'll wait and see how the weapon TU works in Halo4 before I pass judgement on it. But it's still crazy stupid to adjust all the weapons when it's clear that ONLY THE DMR is the big issue. Bring it down to the Carbine and Light Rifle specs and it'll be good. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They have to go and adjust ALL the weapons to meet up with the DMR?! WHAT?!?!

343i is full of smart game designers. It boggles my mind that they can't see the SIMPLE answer to fix the SIMPLE issues. And the fact that they are making it a Game-type "fix" again is just nuts. Did they not learn from their mistakes in Halo Reach?! You want to give the new weapon TU a proper test, 343i? Here's your answer:

Create a hidden listing in Match making for ALL CURRENT HBO MEMBERS. NO MLG members or other "professional" gamers. Let us NORMAL HALO LOVING GAMERS test the weapon balance and give feedback. At least we will be honest and think about new gamers entering the game. We complain and give fix suggestions all the time. We're Halo's largest and longest lasting community. How about listening to us once for a change?! Bungie seemed to listen and the MP improved. Why don't you? Seriously, do you have something against us or something? "The game must be balanced for new Halo gamers." Bull Crap!! We were all once "new Halo gamers" and we figured it out and adjusted. If anything, the new generation of Halo players will be better at adjust then us Halo Vets. For they grew up in the HD 3D FPS world They know how to view the different worlds of games today and adjust quickly. They will be fine. Oh and here's another point to keep in mind. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW OLDER HALO GAMES PLAYED!!! If they enter the Halo universe then they WILL want to check out past Halo games. But they are going to hate them because they can't get use to the mechanics of the SIMPLER game-play. We seeing that now. There's a big divide between Halo1/2 fans and Halo3 fans. Many see H3 as the best. I believe it's because it's the game they started with and it had duel wielding and equipment. Something that many games had at that time period. Personally, I like Halo 1 and 2 the most. simple game-play and mechanics. Only two weapons and two types of grenades. Outside of the pistol in Halo1, MP was well balanced. And the maps were fun to play and easy to navigate.

One of the biggest weapon gamers ask for MP remakes is because of those maps' balance and layout. Sadly, they tend not to transfer well to newer Halo games where there's instant spawn kills due to unbalanced weapons (DMR/BR), perks, personal loadouts, and unbalance armor abilities like Promethean Vision.

I'm done ranting now.
Sorry


Messages In This Thread

Bulletin's up!ZackDark5/16/13 1:26 am
     Re: Bulletin's up!TDSpiral5/16/13 2:05 am
           Re: Bulletin's up!FyreWulff5/16/13 2:16 am
                 Re: Bulletin's up!Grizzlei5/16/13 2:54 am
                 Re: Bulletin's up!DEEP NNN5/16/13 8:09 am
                 Re: Bulletin's up!Avateur5/16/13 9:04 pm
     Re: Bulletin's up!FyreWulff5/16/13 2:11 am
           Well...kornman005/16/13 3:58 am
                 Re: Well...FyreWulff5/16/13 6:04 am
                       Re: Well...FyreWulff5/16/13 6:15 am
                             Re: Well...zoojoo5/16/13 6:51 am
                             Re: Well...pete_the_duck5/16/13 7:24 am
                                   Re: That's exactly what I was afraid of...Hyokin5/16/13 11:10 am
                                         "It's just like Reach all over again!" *NM*Chewbaccawakka5/16/13 1:14 pm
                                               You know what's funny...Hyokin5/17/13 10:56 am
                                                     I've got a good one for ya...SEspider5/18/13 4:07 pm
                                                           Re: I've got a good one for ya...Avateur5/18/13 4:33 pm
                                                                 Re: I've got a good one for ya...SEspider5/18/13 11:29 pm
                                         Re: That's exactly what I was afraid of...bluerunner5/16/13 5:02 pm
                                               Re: That's exactly what I was afraid of...Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)5/16/13 5:39 pm
                                                     This^. *NM*Hyokin5/17/13 10:54 am
                                   Do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands.breitzen5/16/13 12:16 pm
                                   Re: Well...Avateur5/16/13 9:11 pm
                                         Re: Well...pete_the_duck5/16/13 9:24 pm
                       Re: Well...DEEP NNN5/16/13 8:00 am
                             This doesn't bug me too muchCARDO 8 ATL5/16/13 1:35 pm
                             Re: Well...TCKaos5/16/13 2:05 pm
                                   Yes, they're in the game variant datakornman005/16/13 3:08 pm
                                         Re: Yes, they're in the game variant dataDEEP NNN5/16/13 4:30 pm
                                               Re: Yes, they're in the game variant dataRC Master5/16/13 4:49 pm
                                                     Re: Yes, they're in the game variant dataDEEP NNN5/16/13 4:51 pm
                                                           Re: Yes, they're in the game variant datapete_the_duck5/16/13 5:07 pm
                                                                 Re: Yes, they're in the game variant dataDEEP NNN5/16/13 5:31 pm
                                                                       Re: Yes, they're in the game variant datapete_the_duck5/16/13 5:54 pm
                                               It's all part of the game variant filekornman005/16/13 8:04 pm
                                                     Re: It's all part of the game variant fileDEEP NNN5/16/13 10:12 pm
     Congratulations Flying Shoe *NM*General Vagueness5/17/13 12:46 am
     What's 5 Flag? (should I get excited?) *NM*General Vagueness5/17/13 12:48 am
           Re: What's 5 Flag? (should I get excited?)Avateur5/17/13 1:25 am
                 Re: What's 5 Flag? (should I get excited?)pete_the_duck5/17/13 8:44 am
                       Re: What's 5 Flag? (should I get excited?)Avateur5/17/13 8:43 pm
     Re: Bulletin's up!gamerguy20025/18/13 4:43 pm

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