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Re: General thoughts.
Date: 12/7/13 12:26 am
In Response To: General thoughts. (Quirel)

: I think it's telling that the canonical reason Prometheans look like they
: were designed by an idiot is that they were designed by an idiot.
: Senile, insane, senseless. I mean, the Didact melted down his Promethean
: super-soldiers into fragile tin cans, on the supposition that he was
: making them immune to the Flood.

: In a more general sense, I think the good folks at 343i have a terrible
: problem with objectivity. They can't distinguish their intent from the
: execution, so they are blindsided when the stories they tell fall flat.
: Let's break it down: -Intent: Promethean Knights are tragic enemies, not
: mindless robot monsters.

: Execution: Mindless robot monsters.
: Scarab has said it better than I can. But seriously, what the Hell us up with
: the skulls?

: -Intent: Watchers are a part of the Promethean Knight, sort of a splinter of
: the soul.

: Execution: They split off from the Knight in some sort of weird
: techno-organic birth, with a burst of synthetic amniotic fluid to complete
: the effect. But no indication is given that this is a process of mitosis,
: rather than yet another teleportation animation.

: We often encounter Knights without Watchers. We also encounter lone Watchers
: (or even swarms of them) without Knights. If they're supposed to be the
: same entity, they should be sticking close to each other to the point
: where the player can easily tell which Watcher belongs to which Knight.
: Also, change up the tactics when one of them gets killed, like Hunters do.

: Intent: The Watcher chattering sound is when they see you, and are reporting
: you back to their Knight.

: Execution: The only thing that happens when a Watcher is spying on you is
: that they make that little chattering noise. Knights don't change their
: tactics, and neither do Crawlers.

: -Intent: Promethean weapons transform and adjust themselves to fit the user.

: Execution: They. Don't. Transform.
: A Promethean weapon lying on the ground is almost exactly the same lying on
: the ground as it is when you or a Knight holds it. When activated, they
: just extend some floaty bits and fire up the Tron lines.
: Oh, and the break-action shotgun still has the pistol grip when a Knight is
: holding it, which is about as useful as tits on a Sangheili.

: In all likelihood, the transformation was toned down so players could easily
: recognize weapons when they see them lying on the ground. Which is a
: really crappy excuse.

: -Intent: The Didact is the Chief's nemesis.

: Execution: The Didact tries to be the Chief's nemesis. And is a lesser
: character because of it.
: In order for a nemesis to work, the protagonist and the antagonist have to
: have roughly equal levels of power, they have to be working at
: cross-purposes, and they have to be familiar.

: That's what makes Shepard and Saren nemeses. They're both Spectres who are
: building a coalition to reach a goal, they're trying to stop each other,
: and they each try to convert the other on multiple occasions.

: That's also what makes Kai Leng so hilarious. He wants to be the nemesis to
: the big bad Shepard, but he's just a weaboo hitman who has to move heaven
: and Earth to be considered more than a nuisance. Shepard has bigger things
: to worry about.

: So, the Chief is a supersoldier cobbled together by a backwater species. The
: Didact is a general who was in power at the height of Forerunner
: civilization, ensconced in his own fortress-world. The Didact should have
: been a demigod, but then the Chief couldn't have reasonably fought him.

: Which is why the Didact doesn't do anything to kill the Chief. And that makes
: him a Bond villain, not a nemesis.

: In conclusion, when you're writing a story, it's easy to make the connections
: because you know all the important details. But as a writer, your job is
: to communicate and justify that intent. If you don't have enough
: objectivity to evaluate how well you've communicated that intent, your
: story is going to fall flat.

I really enjoyed reading this. It's also not always a matter of objectivity. I think that's a good part of it, but they also seem to have really, really bad writers. When your solution to Spartan Ops is Frankie walking in the room at the perfect moment and telling you to throw the thing into the sun, your entire room of people have seriously screwed up.

Messages In This Thread

Enemy Personalities and Promethean ProblemsApollo12/5/13 10:24 pm
     Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean Problemsdavidfuchs12/5/13 11:32 pm
     Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean ProblemsRagashingo12/6/13 1:31 am
           Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean ProblemsApollo12/6/13 6:54 am
     Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean Problemsscarab12/6/13 9:45 am
           Important reading material.uberfoop12/6/13 11:58 am
                 Re: Important reading material.scarab12/6/13 12:58 pm
     AI personality = possibly best thing about HaloDervish12/6/13 1:33 pm
           And a note on PrometheansDervish12/6/13 1:44 pm
                 Re: And a note on Prometheansscarab12/6/13 2:20 pm
                       Re: And a note on PrometheansDervish12/6/13 4:41 pm
                             Re: And a note on Prometheansscarab12/6/13 7:05 pm
                 Re: And a note on PrometheansRC Master12/7/13 2:27 pm
     On diagloue, localization and last-gen problemskornman0012/6/13 4:05 pm
           Re: On diagloue, localization and last-gen problemAvateur12/6/13 5:55 pm
           Do they HAVE to localize it ?RC Master12/7/13 12:13 pm
     Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean ProblemsAvateur12/6/13 5:52 pm
           Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean Problemsscarab12/6/13 7:00 pm
                 Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean ProblemsAvateur12/6/13 7:29 pm
                       Re: Enemy Personalities and Promethean Problemsscarab12/6/13 9:45 pm
     General thoughts.Quirel12/6/13 10:24 pm
           Re: General thoughts.Avateur12/7/13 12:26 am
                 Re: General thoughts.Quirel12/7/13 3:36 am
           Re: General thoughts.scarab12/7/13 4:03 am
                 I forgot about the terminalsscarab12/7/13 4:20 am
                       Re: I forgot about the terminalsClarion12/7/13 9:41 am
                             Re: I forgot about the terminalsRC Master12/7/13 12:53 pm
                 Re: General thoughts.Avateur12/7/13 1:23 pm
                       Re: General thoughts.thebruce012/10/13 10:11 am
                 Re: General thoughts.Quirel12/7/13 3:36 pm
                       Re: General thoughts.scarab12/7/13 4:17 pm
                             Speaking of which...uberfoop12/7/13 4:23 pm
                             Re: General thoughts.Quirel12/7/13 5:02 pm
           *Like* *NM*thebruce012/10/13 10:07 am
           Well-articulated, good sir. *NM*The Lionheart12/11/13 12:35 am

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