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Re: ::Mopes::

Posted By: Forrest of B.org (term5-40.vta.west.net)
Date: 5/20/2001 at 5:14 p.m.

In Response To: Re: ::Mopes:: (Archer »–)›)

: You nicely contradict yourself later :-) hehe.

: …"both" contradicting the beginning of your
: post. Heh, sorry to nitpick; I'm just in debate mode
: :-).

Two people. One spirit. The one spirit had been both Ravanna and Culwyeh, who are different people.

: Where are your sources for this, exaclty?

Prerelease info had no Shiver, but did have a Voiceless One. As seen in the Names article, we had already connected the two together, but we thought it was just a name change.

GURPS then says that Shiver's true name is Culwyeh (from the Wight flavor text in M2), and goes on to talk about her. Then, when describing The Voiceless One, Ravanna, (and the whole Eternal Sleep thing), it mentions how the Deceiver called the corporeal spirit of Shiver "Ravanna", indicating that the two are somehow the same. Because we had already made the connection before because of the names, I see no reason to think they just pulled this out of their asses.

:And Forrest,
: why haven't you responded to my lengthy άber-Theory? I
: so wanted your opinion and for you to reitterate your
: connection with the Dark Gods.

Because I left early Wednesday for the Fanfest, got home at 4AM last night, and had no internet connection in the mean time. I had enough time to glance over and respond to a few messages before I went to sleep, and I did read over your theory, but had no time to respond.

It seems pretty sound. I don't much like the idea of Nyx being the root of all evil, as she's always seemed generally decent to me, she's just got (or had) some problem with Wyrd. But that's just a gut feeling.

The only real problems I see with it are that the Dark Gods are also called the Old Gods, indicating that Wyrd and Nyx and such, those not counted amongst the Old Gods are, somehow newer than them. That, and where does the Leveller spirit fit in with all of this? It seems to me that, in your theory, Nyx would be the Leveller spirit, the destroyer who posesses one of the champions every thousand years, not the B-spirit who gives a champion his order inclination. Not to mention the Savior, who I won't get in to until after M3 is out...

: Forrest, I also wanted to know if you could please
: delineate how the dating works for Myth, such as HC
: and AE. Thank you :-).

The Cath Bruig Empire was founded in 1 AE (meaning Acit El, or "Golden Age" in Bruig). This was 570 years into the Second Era, the Age of Reason. Hence Great Wars always occur in 431, 1431, 2431, etc... The Great War that started the Age of Reason would have been 570 HC (nobody remembers what HC stands for, but some Asylumers guess it may mean Heron Calendar). The Great War before that, at the dawn of the First Era, would be 1570. If there were Great Wars before that, they would be 2570, 3570, etc.

Messages In This Thread

  • Shiver is good in Wolf Age?
    Archer »–)› (198.139.4.241) -- 5/18/2001 at 2:42 p.m.
    • ::jumps in::
      David Bricker (cc559987-a.hwrd1.md.home.com) -- 5/18/2001 at 4:49 p.m.
      • Re: ::jumps in::
        Forrest of B.org (213-175.adsl3.netlojix.net) -- 5/19/2001 at 10:39 p.m.
        • ::Mopes::
          David Bricker (cc559987-a.hwrd1.md.home.com) -- 5/20/2001 at 10:41 a.m.
          • Re: ::Mopes::
            Archer »–)› (198.139.4.218) -- 5/20/2001 at 2:28 p.m.
            • Re: ::Mopes::
              Forrest of B.org (term5-14.vta.west.net) -- 5/20/2001 at 4:32 p.m.
              • Re: ::Mopes::
                Archer »–)› (198.139.4.249) -- 5/20/2001 at 4:46 p.m.
                • Re: ::Mopes::
                  Forrest of B.org (term5-40.vta.west.net) -- 5/20/2001 at 5:14 p.m.
                  • Re: ::Mopes::
                    Archer »–)› (198.139.4.204) -- 5/20/2001 at 8:36 p.m.
                    • Re: ::Mopes::
                      Forrest of B.org (term5-31.vta.west.net) -- 5/20/2001 at 9:26 p.m.
                      • Re: ::Mopes::
                        Archer »–)› (198.139.4.191) -- 5/20/2001 at 10:56 p.m.
                        • Re: ::Mopes::
                          Forrest of B.org (term1-19.vta.west.net) -- 5/21/2001 at 12:01 a.m.
                          • Stop the Moping
                            Lord Raven (netcachedet1.ozemail.com.au) -- 5/21/2001 at 2:24 a.m.
                          • Re: ::Mopes::
                            Archer »–)› (198.139.4.236) -- 5/21/2001 at 5:26 a.m.
                          • Re: ::Mopes::
                            Smasher (c1282351-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) -- 5/21/2001 at 8:44 p.m.

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