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That was absurd, lol. Here's why:
By:The Lionheart
Date: 3/13/14 2:11 pm
In Response To: Cheif vs. Cap (Mid7night)

Okay, the following post is completely without bias, because I love Captain America's personality/character. He's arguably my favorite Marvel guy, in terms of personality.

Captain America, on his best of days, versus MCPO John-117 in Mark 6 MJOLNIR PAA with the experience he had as of 2552, has only one ending: a very quick and abrupt end for the good Captain. No lengthy engagement, no struggle, no play-by-play, just defeat. And he probably wouldn't even see or hear it coming.

Of course, these two personalities would likely never have reason to fight, and would be far more likely to enjoy the pleasures of diplomatic resolution, but since this scenario isn't supposed to make sense anyway, we're discarding all that.

Someone else said Chief is basically Cap in PAA. That's a great point, but even that falls woefully short of the truth. I've tried using comic book lore to explain SPARTAN-IIs to comic book fans before, and this is the best I've come up with so far:

Going off the novels here, John is (kinda) like if Steve Rogers were BORN with the genetics present in his super-soldier-serum form, but then bitten by the spider that bit Spider-Man (he can't sling webs or climb walls, but everything else... yeah pretty much! O_o).

But that's not all! Oh, no! No no no...

At age 6, this freak of nature was then kidnapped and forced to fulfill the utmost of his cognitive and physiological potential by none other than the most brilliant human being ever born (while their personal passions for science were fully fanned into flame, no less!), and someone analogous to Batman. What were they being trained to become? Assault guys? No. They were basically being trained to be Batman.

For ~8 years, these two people trained this freak of nature alongside the only other 74 people in existence (the best 74 out of a population of around 39 billion) who could hope to hold a candle to John (they themselves being similar freaks of nature).

By the time their training was done, they had been developed into the ultimate ninjas: not a hammer, but a laser-fine scalpel. Even the analogue to Batman himself could not outthink them, outwit them, or even control the circumstances under which they were tested ("I don't know where they got that black clothing from..."). They were far less "soldiers" than they were "operators." Able to wage war openly, but designed so they wouldn't have to.

The survivors of the surgeries they endured after those 8 years of training lived every moment of every day (for the rest of their lives) in slow-motion. Spider-Man experiences reality in slow motion during "adrenaline" moments -- S2s live like that incessantly. And then during adrenaline moments, they experience "SPARTAN-time." They also gained something analogous to Wolverine's unbreakable skeleton. Oh, and their already-a-freak-of-nature bodies gained even MORE strength, stamina, recovery speed, and potential.

Now, after those surgeries, they received MJOLNIR. I used to compare this to a flightless, energy-projectile-less suit of Iron Man's armor, but I've come to realize that it's far more accurate to compare it to Colossus' mutant ability to grow organic metal around himself. MJOLNIR isn't a "suit of armor" to S2s, it's their second skin. Later on, of course, this second skin gained fully regenerative full-body energy shielding, which was a massive tactical advantage.

Now when you give these hyper-intelligent, ultra-speed, trans-human, cyborg ninja operators access to the tools of their trade (UNSC and Covenant guns, grenades, point defense gauntlets, armor abilities, and equipment) it becomes a little bit more clear as to just how one-sided this engagement would be for the good Captain with his pistol and shield.

This is a great example of why I feel like it's near impossible to do S2s justice via a live-action depiction: no mere actor can actually move the way that they move. It's gotta be a Gollum-surpassing CG.

Anywho. That's my two cents on the subject. :p

Messages In This Thread

Cheif vs. CapMid7night3/12/14 9:56 am
     Re: Cheif vs. CapMid7night3/12/14 10:25 am
           I hate popularity contestsSEspider3/13/14 4:57 am
                 Re: I hate popularity contestsHyokin3/13/14 12:56 pm
     CaptainGrizzlei3/12/14 10:50 am
     Re: Cheif vs. CapHyokin3/12/14 12:30 pm
           Because everyone was. *NM*SEspider3/13/14 4:59 am
     Re: Cheif vs. CapXenos3/13/14 3:46 am
           Re: Cheif vs. CapMid7night3/13/14 9:18 am
           And he knows how to shoot targets with shieldsscarab3/14/14 7:23 pm
     Re: Cheif vs. Capserpx3/13/14 11:40 am
     That was absurd, lol. Here's why:The Lionheart3/13/14 2:11 pm
           Quite a bit more than 2c worth...Mid7night3/13/14 2:17 pm
           Re: Beautifulthebruce03/13/14 2:36 pm
                 Re: BeautifulSEspider3/14/14 5:35 pm
           Re: That was absurd, lol. Here's why:Xenos3/13/14 3:30 pm
           Heh. Good explanation.Quirel3/13/14 4:21 pm
                 Re: Heh. Good explanation.SEspider3/14/14 6:05 pm
                       Re: Heh. Good explanation.Quirel3/14/14 9:41 pm
           Re: That was absurd, lol. Here's why:Stephen L. (SoundEffect)3/13/14 10:03 pm

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