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Re: PoA taking off from Reach… again
By:uberfoop
Date: 4/15/13 8:24 pm
In Response To: Re: PoA taking off from Reach… again (Cody Miller)

: No you can't. That's the point. If you're orbiting too slow, gravity pulls
: you back. Escape velocity is what it is: that's how fast you have to go to
: break free of the planet's gravity.

Escape velocity is how fast something would have to exit the barrel of a cannon in order to escape. That's a totally different question from a powered rocket.

If you build a rocket that goes indefinitely upward at 1m/s, it'll never get close to the surface escape velocity (it will eventually be at escape velocity, once you're far enough from the planet that the escape velocity is only 1m/s), but by definition it will ultimately get away from the planet. Such a rocket would need some thrust on the way up, which is the model Loftus is using.

...Not that this eliminates the basic energy requirements, of course. Gravitational potential is gravitational potential.


Messages In This Thread

PoA taking off from Reach… againCody Miller4/15/13 1:05 pm
     Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againLouis Wu4/15/13 2:13 pm
     Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againuberfoop4/15/13 2:31 pm
           It Was Built in SpaaaaceCINCLesotho4/15/13 9:32 pm
                 Re: It Was Built in SpaaaaceStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/15/13 9:36 pm
     FTL TravelRC Master4/15/13 2:42 pm
           Re: FTL TravelStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/15/13 3:02 pm
     Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/15/13 2:56 pm
           Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againRevenant19884/15/13 3:02 pm
           Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againCody Miller4/15/13 7:35 pm
                 Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againZackDark4/15/13 7:44 pm
                 Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/15/13 7:53 pm
                       Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againCody Miller4/15/13 7:58 pm
                             Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againZackDark4/15/13 8:16 pm
                             Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againuberfoop4/15/13 8:24 pm
                                   Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againCody Miller4/15/13 8:31 pm
                                         Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againuberfoop4/15/13 8:38 pm
                                               Addendumuberfoop4/15/13 8:41 pm
                                         Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againGravemind4/15/13 8:54 pm
                                               Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againthebruce04/16/13 10:04 am
                                                     Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/16/13 2:41 pm
                 Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againButtskunk4/17/13 3:44 pm
                       Re: PoA taking off from Reach… againStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/17/13 4:33 pm
                             It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a post.Ragashingo4/17/13 6:04 pm
                                   *Sigh*CALAMITY… There's goes my Styx joke. :( *NM*Ragashingo4/17/13 6:08 pm
                                   Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posCody Miller4/17/13 6:38 pm
                                         Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posZackDark4/17/13 7:20 pm
                                               Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posCody Miller4/17/13 10:26 pm
                                                     Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posCody Miller4/17/13 10:34 pm
                                                     Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/17/13 11:26 pm
                                                           also...bryan newman4/18/13 12:41 am
                                                                 Hostess makes a comeback! *NM*Mr Daax4/18/13 1:53 am
                                                                       Only to be wiped out again by the Covenant! :p *NM*Ragashingo4/18/13 2:21 am
                                                                             The Prophet of Gluttony was hungry I guess...bryan newman4/18/13 5:13 am
                                                                                   Re: The Prophet of Gluttony was hungry I guess...Grimmire4/18/13 8:20 am
                                                                                         I lol'd *NM*ZackDark4/18/13 8:44 am
                                                     Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posZackDark4/18/13 8:43 am
                                                           Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/18/13 9:03 am
                                                                 Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posZackDark4/18/13 9:07 am
                                                                       Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/18/13 10:09 am
                                                                             Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posZackDark4/18/13 7:22 pm
                                                                                   Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/18/13 10:34 pm
                                                                                         Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posZackDark4/18/13 10:59 pm
                                                                                               Re: It's hard to believe such a clammily… of a posStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/19/13 9:07 am
                                                           Mathsuberfoop4/19/13 12:12 am
                                                                 Re: MathsZackDark4/19/13 12:22 pm
     One thing to considerPostmortem4/15/13 3:28 pm
           Re: One thing to considerCody Miller4/15/13 7:37 pm
     UpdateCody Miller4/17/13 12:43 pm
           Re: UpdateZackDark4/17/13 1:00 pm
                 Re: UpdateCody Miller4/17/13 2:20 pm
           Re: UpdateDEEP NNN4/17/13 1:22 pm
                 Re: UpdatePostmortem4/17/13 1:28 pm
                       Re: UpdateTDSpiral4/17/13 6:18 pm
                 Almost all sci-fi spacesships use itscarab4/17/13 5:26 pm
                       And many rockets can be set on suckscarab4/17/13 5:28 pm
                             And many Star Trek episodes can be set on suck too *NM*Quirel4/17/13 6:21 pm
                                   Too true *NM*scarab4/18/13 1:02 am
                       Re: Almost all sci-fi spacesships use itQuirel4/19/13 8:57 pm
           Re: UpdateStephen L. (SoundEffect)4/17/13 2:01 pm
           Mach Lorentz thruster = no fuelrhubarb4/17/13 5:12 pm
           OMG IT DOESN'T MATTER!Vandle Valsher4/18/13 7:37 am
                 Re: OMG IT DOESN'T MATTER!Mr Daax4/18/13 10:50 am
                       ^This made me chuckle.Vandle Valsher4/18/13 12:49 pm
                             :) *NM*Mr Daax4/18/13 1:30 pm
                             Re: ^This made me chuckle.Stephen L. (SoundEffect)4/18/13 2:02 pm
                                   Yeah, you're right. Shoulda-coulda-woulda. *NM*Vandle Valsher4/18/13 11:54 pm

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