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: A question must be raised regarding the Geneva Conventions and its
: application within the Unified Earth Government. It's not an adoption by
: the United Nations but merely the world order at the time and continued on
: by state actors as law today. The documents in its original language
: regularly uses terms such as "humanely" and
: "humanitarian", as well as "person(s)." It's common
: knowledge that Humans at this point in the war do not regard any species
: or individuals in Covenant civilization as people. That's easy bait for
: the UEG Senate and the UNSC Security Council to circumvent its adaptation
: with alien species.
: Now the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, through a later bill, and the
: Mortal Dictata are binding laws in the United Nations. Still, the Covenant
: aren't Human and any lawful specificity can be reinterpreted as only
: permissible for the wellbeing of humans. It could even be denied to the
: Outer Colonies since the UN in theory doesn't have authority over them.
: Ultimately, the Unified Earth Government seems to have entirely abandoned
: or refined and amended many 20th century treatises with then-modern
: thinking.
: As for ENS Dowski she honestly had it coming. I'm not saying CAPT Keyes was
: entirely correct in the minutiae of his conduct but he wasn't entirely in
: the wrong. Pillar of Autumn was detached from national, colonial, or
: fleet command authority and Keyes had no hope of reprieve. ENS Dowski
: violated multiple articles of what may be a refined adaptation of the U.S.
: Uniformed Code of Military Justice, ones that are directly antithetical to
: conduct in the face of enemy forces. It was well beyond common knowledge
: this late in the war that the Covenant only takes Human prisoners as means
: to an end and will execute them thereafter, regardless of non-hostile
: conduct or not. Keyes and the crew of Autumn intend to escape Alpha
: Halo, and failing that, wage a guerilla campaign against the Fleet of
: Particular Justice. There was no room for hesitation.
: The good captain's treatment of his subordinate was not ideal but neither
: were their circumstances. It just sucks. After the fall of Reach the Fleet
: was on its last legs and there was little room for error. Captain Keyes
: made an emotional call with Dowski and it shows, repeatedly. For the
: safety of his command and Autumn's ships' company Keyes had to pacify
: ENS Dowski. I am shocked he didn't put the frankly insubordinate and
: absolutely senseless ensign out of her misery and summarily execute her.
: Yet, both Keyes and Dowski, and indeed much of the crew, were emotionally
: distraught with the loss of Reach and this immensely daunting alien
: setting. That's a result of continued, almost willing misunderstanding of
: mental health, physical stressors, and so forth and their complexities in
: combat.
: So, to sum up my response, imperialism and fascism is a bitch.
Thanks for the detailed response... I think I should clarify that I didn't bring up the Geneva Convention as a means of criticizing Haverson on a legal basis, but instead to challenge his actions based on an ethical standpoint and to link it to what a person of our time would associate with military honor and just conduct. I imagine there are many legal technicalities that would make for an interesting science fiction courtroom drama, but that's not what I was thinking when bringing it up.
The Dowski thing is an instance of a trope I've seen in these kinds of stories where the one idiot tries to surrender, gets in trouble, and usually brings trouble to the rest of the unit. I think Starship Troopers did it. I think John Scalzi did it in Old Man's War. Hell, I did it in a Halo fanfic with a nutty church-goer trying to convert Jiralhanae. It's a thing. It's the specific way Dietz focuses on the other soldiers bullying her and portrays it positively that I don't like. In other examples, it's "Oh, poor disillusioned redshirt, too good for this world." This usage feels like an excuse to revel in thuggish behavior.
It really reminded me of some nasty torture fantasies I've read on the Internet... There's a lot of messed up stuff out there... Like, you know Cupcakes, the infamous My Little Pony fanfic where Pinkie Pie tortures Rainbow Dash to death? It's like, a wholesome Halo novelization suddenly lurches in the direction of a sadistic fanfic. It's not a flat-out grotesque nightmare like Cupcakes, obviously, but it's got some nasty imagery with tying a woman up while verbally abusing and threatening to shoot her... It feels like a sadistic fantasy because otherwise, it would be horror. I feel like even Keyes just promptly shooting her and feeling bad about it would be better than what there is.
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