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Sweet Jesus.
By:yakaman
Date: 1/4/15 12:01 am
In Response To: Re: Here is how I see it... *img* (Quirel)

: If you've made it this far, thank you for reading.

I mean this honestly and sincerely: this is the best post I've read here in a long time. Fabulous.

People often give Bungie a free pass on the muddle the story was through H1-H3, including the novels. Contradictory, tangential, ephemeral, and sometimes nonsensical. Also, entertaining.

The Covenant as a whole is a myth. A non-starter. An impossibility. It is a hegemony that should have split along stratifications as soon as H3 ended. The Covenant "loyalists" or whatever they were in H4 need to be cast aside completely...they are an anachronism that needs to be left behind (haha!) in order to present a more nuanced (and realistic) depiction of what the Covenant is (or was): a loosely bound collection of 6+ species with entirely different values and goals.

This mean complexity. Real, hard complex interactions and messy motivations. Tough to do, requiring a huge amount of exposition AND consumer patience/commitment. The obvious model would be Martin's Game of Thrones universe.

I ask you, would the Halo universe, post-Convenent collapse, be any less Machiavellian?

OK, ok. Acknowledged. This is a video game we are talking about. Alright. But what about the novels? About the general narratives of the game?

I believe 343 can do better than H4. We'll see.


Messages In This Thread

Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.gamerguy200212/27/14 12:24 am
     Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.Grizzlei12/27/14 12:43 am
           Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.gamerguy200212/27/14 1:01 am
                 Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.breitzen12/27/14 1:31 am
                       Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.Cody Miller12/27/14 12:02 pm
                             Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.RC Master12/27/14 10:43 pm
                 Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.Grizzlei12/27/14 1:37 am
                       Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.gamerguy200212/27/14 2:14 am
                       Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.Quirel12/27/14 3:55 am
                       Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.SEspider12/27/14 9:12 pm
     That thing is uglyThe BS Police12/27/14 1:26 am
           Re: That thing is uglygamerguy200212/27/14 1:50 am
           Re: That thing is uglyCody Miller12/27/14 12:03 pm
     ADS: HOLD LIKE THATuberfoop12/27/14 2:14 am
     Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.Quirel12/27/14 3:08 am
           Re: Nope.Hyokin12/27/14 11:54 am
                 Re: Never.Hyokin12/27/14 11:54 am
                       Re: Not even once.Hyokin12/27/14 11:56 am
                             Re: Never Ever EverSEspider12/27/14 9:19 pm
     Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.TDSpiral12/27/14 5:08 am
     Re: Deja VuHyokin12/27/14 11:53 am
           Re: Deja Vuserpx12/27/14 12:15 pm
                 Re: Deja Vup bro12/27/14 12:55 pm
                 Re: Deja VuQuirel12/27/14 1:02 pm
                 Re: Deja Vugamerguy200212/27/14 2:00 pm
                       Re: Deja VuQuirel12/27/14 3:24 pm
                             Re: Deja Vugamerguy200212/27/14 3:48 pm
     Alright, let's tally votes:Quirel12/27/14 1:23 pm
           Re: Alright, let's tally votes:Hyokin12/27/14 3:03 pm
                 Ditto *NM*SEspider12/27/14 9:24 pm
           Re: Alright, let's tally votes:NartFOpc12/27/14 4:07 pm
           Re: Alright, let's tally votes:serpx12/27/14 5:21 pm
           Re: Alright, let's tally votes:ArteenEsben12/27/14 6:18 pm
           I'm VERY confused about something.SEspider12/27/14 10:01 pm
     343 plsAzo 'Galvat12/27/14 4:49 pm
     Dear BungieCINCL12/27/14 8:23 pm
           Best post ever *NM*Dervish12/28/14 9:17 am
           Two thoughts.Quirel12/28/14 1:08 pm
                 Re: Two thoughts.CINCL12/28/14 2:53 pm
     TEMBER!!!!SEspider12/27/14 9:07 pm
           Sep?Quirel12/28/14 1:10 pm
     Re: Halo 5 Rocket Launcher.RC Master12/27/14 10:32 pm
     But... why?Gravemind12/28/14 1:56 am
           Re: But... why?serpx12/28/14 3:05 am
                 Re: But... why?Quirel12/28/14 3:43 am
                 Re: But... why?NartFOpc12/28/14 10:02 am
                       Re: But... why?Cody Miller12/28/14 10:07 am
                             Re: But... why?gamerguy200212/28/14 10:59 am
                                   Re: But... why?Metalingus62712/28/14 11:34 am
                                         Re: But... why?Grizzlei12/28/14 4:54 pm
                                         Re: But... why?gamerguy200212/29/14 1:20 am
                             Re: But... why?The BS Police12/28/14 12:03 pm
                                   Re: But... why?Cody Miller12/28/14 12:05 pm
                                         Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Hyokin12/28/14 2:59 pm
                                               Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Vincent12/28/14 3:03 pm
                                                     Well...Nikko B20112/28/14 4:30 pm
                                                           Re: Well...Grizzlei12/28/14 5:19 pm
                                                                 Re: Well...Quirel12/28/14 6:13 pm
                                                                       Re: Well...Grizzlei12/29/14 1:40 am
                                                                             Re: Well...Quirel12/29/14 4:31 am
                                                                                   Adaptabilityrhubarb12/29/14 4:29 pm
                                                                                         Re: AdaptabilityQuirel12/30/14 4:17 pm
                                                                 Re: Well...Stephen L. (SoundEffect)12/29/14 10:50 am
                                                                       Re: This! *NM*Hyokin12/29/14 3:48 pm
                                                                       Re: Well...Archilen12/30/14 6:14 am
                                                                             Re: Well...Hyokin12/30/14 11:26 am
                                                                                   Re: Well...Archilen12/30/14 11:44 am
                                                                 Re: Well...General Vagueness1/2/15 2:01 pm
                                                                 Re: Well...scarab1/3/15 5:45 am
                                               Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Grizzlei12/28/14 5:06 pm
                                                     Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Quirel12/29/14 3:53 am
                                                           Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Archilen12/30/14 6:07 am
                                                                 Re: Here is how I see it... *img*MacGyver1012/30/14 10:32 am
                                                                       Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Archilen12/30/14 11:30 am
                                                                 Re: Here is how I see it... *img*Quirel1/2/15 4:06 am
                                                                       Sweet Jesus.yakaman1/4/15 12:01 am
                                                                             Re: Sweet Jesus.Quirel1/4/15 3:49 pm
                                               Compared to Halo, Star Wars had better visuals....robofin11712/30/14 4:56 pm
                 Re: But... why?ArteenEsben12/29/14 11:25 am
                 Re: But... why?Gravemind12/29/14 2:04 pm
                       Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineHyokin12/29/14 3:51 pm
                             Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineAzo 'Galvat12/29/14 5:21 pm
                                   Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineQuirel1/2/15 3:14 am
                                         Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineHyokin1/2/15 4:31 pm
                             Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineGravemind12/29/14 8:33 pm
                                   Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineMacGyver1012/30/14 10:34 am
                                         Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineHyokin12/30/14 11:19 am
                                               Re: Storm Rifle vs. CarbineMacGyver1012/30/14 11:24 am
                       Re: But... why?Quirel12/31/14 4:53 am
     Why the heck do you blame the "pro team" for this?FugitiveSoldier12/29/14 9:58 am
           Re: Why the heck do you blame the "pro team" for tserpx12/29/14 11:40 am
                 Re: Why the heck do you blame the "pro team" for tgamerguy200212/29/14 1:04 pm
                       Re: Why the heck do you blame the "pro team" for tFugitiveSoldier12/29/14 1:18 pm
                       Yes I havebreitzen12/29/14 1:30 pm
     What the fuck *NM*General Vagueness12/30/14 3:09 pm

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