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Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.
By:Gravemind
Date: 11/21/14 8:23 pm
In Response To: Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC. (SEspider)

Uberfoop already did a point-by-point, so I won't do the same. But I will say that if you're fine with broken products and think we should be infinitely patient and throw ourselves at the mercy of MS and other companies, more power to you.

: As for comparing Microsoft to Nintendo, that's just foolish. Sorry but it is.
: THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. Nor are their games and servers. They each have
: their own method of bringing gamers together. They each have their own
: method of doing things. AND NOT ONE is perfect. First Party game or
: otherwise. You're comparing Apples to Bananas. They may have their
: similarities, but there are FAR MORE differences between them then you may
: realize.

Of course they're not the same. Kind of like how Ford and Toyota aren't the same. I mean, they both make automobiles of similar configuration and pricing, but, like MS and Nintendo, one is American and the other is Japanese, which makes them totally different.

: There are going to be hick-ups with every new generation of console or PC
: (that includes Macs). And even more hick-ups when you try to bring old
: software (updated or not) to work on new hardware. In this case that's the
: Halo master Chief Collection. Which consist of Four Freaking Games!. So
: take a chill pill and relax. You're not the only one experiencing
: problems. And Microsoft/343i ARE WORKING ON IT.

Bullshit excuses. This isn't the first major AAA release this past year to be either riddled with game-breaking glitches, or have major server issues, or be nigh-unplayable at launch. This month alone we've seen the MCC, Advanced Warfare, AC: Unity, Driveclub, and LittleBigPlanet 3 launch in various states of disrepair, with some problems lingering not just for days but for weeks, and some not having any guarantee of being fixed. This is not acceptable. Saying we should be patient and wait for future fixes is saying that we should allow the industry to normalize this garbage. Waiting a day or two for a fix for a simple problem is one thing. Having a product be barely functional for weeks after launch is something else. If another industry did this there would be mass recalls, bad PR, and jobs lost. Imagine if half of Ford's models released this year all had issues with radiators springing leaks, ACs/heaters that didn't work, and trunks that didn't latch properly and popped open every time you drove over a bad speed bump. Imagine if every iPhone 6 couldn't connect to the internet for a month after launch. Imagine if Disney's Blu-ray release of Captain America: The Winter Soldier had 15 straight minutes of scrambled video in the movie. Imagine if Whirlpool or Kenmore released several models of refrigerator that had non-functioning ice/water dispensers. That shit wouldn't fly in those industries. Hell, this wouldn't fly in the gaming industry in the pre-online age. You either released a working product or you were fucked. You couldn't release a broken product and then fix it after the fact. The advent of online services was a double-edged sword, allowing devs to release patches to fix issues, but publishers are increasingly viewing the greater prevalence of online as a blank check to push unfinished and even broken games out the door and then tell us to be patient while they fix things that should have been fixed before the game went gold.

In today's games market, we're increasingly expected to be glorified post-launch beta testers. We're asked to preorder everything, with no guarantee that we'll get a finished, working product at launch, and with review embargoes becoming more common we won't even know anything is wrong until after the fact. Instead of recalls, the consumers are given excuses and promises by publishers that may or may not be kept (see yesterday's MCC patch, which failed to do much of anything), and are told "stop whining" by other consumers, because fanboys are what they are. And that's the least of the industry's problems. A significant chunk of the industry is violating the customer's trust and disrespecting their time and money. Money is time. Time is valuable, as once lost it can never be recovered. Games like the MCC being released in the shape they are is simply inexcusable.

I'm giving 343i three weeks. That's patient enough. There's no excuse for one of the biggest first-party releases this year to not be fixed within a month of launch. If they haven't fixed it by then, well, fuck 'em. They had their chance. Microsoft doesn't automatically deserve my money. I'm a paying customer and I'll give my money to companies that earn it.


Messages In This Thread

343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Gravemind11/21/14 12:13 pm
     Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.gamerguy200211/21/14 12:24 pm
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Gravemind11/21/14 12:40 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.MixMaker111/21/14 12:44 pm
                       Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Gravemind11/21/14 1:42 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.gamerguy200211/21/14 1:29 pm
                       Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.uberfoop11/21/14 1:43 pm
                             Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Avateur11/21/14 3:29 pm
                                   Oof.yakaman11/21/14 3:33 pm
                                         Re: Oof.Azo 'Galvat11/22/14 8:25 am
                       Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Gravemind11/21/14 1:45 pm
     Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Bosticman11/21/14 1:32 pm
     Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.SEspider11/21/14 3:44 pm
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Schooly D11/21/14 4:07 pm
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.NartFOpc11/21/14 4:20 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Azo 'Galvat11/22/14 8:20 am
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.uberfoop11/21/14 4:32 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Mid7night11/21/14 8:42 pm
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Crazedone198811/21/14 7:12 pm
           Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Gravemind11/21/14 8:23 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Avateur11/21/14 8:36 pm
                 Re: 343i has three weeks to fix the MCC.Moorpheusl911/22/14 5:01 am

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