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What are you talking about???

Posted By: Pfhor (pool0302.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net)
Date: 2/1/2001 at 12:08 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Read Forrest's post (nt) (DingoAteMyBaby)

: Forrest still mentions the names used in the prerelease
: and I will maintain until the day I die that
: prerelease info not appearing in the game has no
: relevance.

Ok, the prerelease is correct, The Faceless Man is NOT Soulblighter, and Bonesplitter is probably The Lurker.

: I'm assuming that the names Anshar and
: Patron of the Hanged for Damas come from GURPS as does
: shivers Mother of Plagues title.

Where did he get the names Anshar and Patron of the Hanged for Soulblighter, never heard of those names? Mother of Plagues is in GURPS though.

: But if Shiver (GURPS
: Culyweh) is NOT the same as Ravanna (GURPS Voiceless
: one) Then why in the game is her name Shiver (Ravanna)
: and is referred to as Ravanna by Myrdred. As opposed
: to Ravanna and Voiceless one being one person and
: Shiver Culyweh being another I see it as more likely
: that Shiver/Culyweh is a mind that uses the rotting
: host corpse of Ravanna/Voicelss one, a dead sorceress.
: I think GURPS made up a few more Fallen out of thin
: air to fill some gaps and fill out the world.

Shiver and Ravanna are two different Fallen Lords, and I got some proof about them being different, with a theory I wrote up. I'll post the theory soon, but they are different Fallen Lords, nuff said (though they might use the same soul, they are still 2 different Fallen Lords).

They made some of them up, what are you smoking? The parts where it contradicts the story is the parts that are considered theories by them, which is on the side. The info they got for the Fallen Lords was from Bungie themselves. The Lurker is a Fallen Lord, and if you don't believe that, I don't know what to say! Sorry to sound mean, but you aren't making sense. The Lurker I believe is also shown in the Myth comic book, and was once called Bheil (probably in The Wind Age). Now it doesn't say anything about The Faceless Man, probably since Bungie didn't want to talk about him. Though they do say their is one more Fallen Lord yet to be revelead, which is probably The Faceless Man.

BTW, Balor is not a Fallen Lord, he is just The Leveler of the Sword Age, clearing that up for others...

: How
: likely is it that our narrator never mentions any
: other of the Fallen besides Soulblighter, The Watcher,
: Shiver and, The Deceiver although I beleive that it is
: perfectly possible that the Head could be one of the
: fallen because it would not be possible for the
: Narrator to know it, I don't expect it to be revealed
: in game.

Ok, they only mention those 4 because they all had armies that were crushing the light in Myth I. Though in GURPS it says that all 6 of them were under Balor, they probably died earlier on. The Lurker/Bonesplitter, The Watcher, Shiver, and The Faceless Man were all from The Wind/Wolf ages, that I am pretty sure about. Their end came when Balor arrived probably.

The Head is not a Fallen Lord, I am sure of this as well (all the things I said I am sure of, I got some proof for those, though I can't yet post my theories). When I do though, you will sure hear where they are (it's a surprise, :), and then you get read up the good stuff I been cooking with some help from Forrest, Sili, and some other guys.

: If I had a rocket launcher, I'd make somebody pay.

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