: GURPS tells us that there were humans were IN the
: spider-cult, not that it was explicitly human. This
: passage: "Connacht could no longer ignore the
: atrocities committed by the Spider-cult but when he
: assailed their shrines, no trace could be found of the
: Smiths of Muirthemne or their followers..."
: -Spider Flavor Text, Myth II
: seems to indicate to me that the cults were at least
: founded by the Smiths, and later gathered a human
: following.
But the spider-cult is classed under human religions, and "the only race displaying a variety of religious beliefs is humanity." I agree that the Smiths were only the founders; I just think they were human founders of a human cult. They were enchanters, after all, and this seems to be a human/fir'Bolg occupation more than a Dwarven one. Historically, too, Dwarves have been fairly isolationist; a long-term colony of Wind-Age Dwarves living in Muirthemne would be unusual, I think.
: Perhaps they don't KNOW it leads to their world? Humans
: tap the magics and follow the known wills of their
: gods, but don't receive explicit tactical information
: from them. I figure the Fetch would be the same.
But most humans don't use clerical magic; they use ordinary magic which doesn't depend directly on the good will oftheir gods. Fetch, however, receive their powers straight from their gods, who are (according to GURPS) able to observe them at all times. It'd seem reasonable that this link would allow for communication. And even if they can't talk to their gods, they should at least be able to figure it out through their sorcerous abilities. They've been to the Devoid; they've heard the mysterious noises coming out of it and presumably they can perceive other aspects with their magical senses. If it connected to home, I think they'd know.
: I wasn't saying it was an actual Fetch-spirit in the
: game-world, but that the energy effect was an enlarged
: Fetch-spirit sprite. But Martel disproved that.
Looks to me like a central model animation surrounded by a sprite-based LPGR. Not that that's relevant. :-)
: Again, there's that bit about information and not knowing
: everything your gods know. The Fetch hate the living
: of our world, but they hate EVERYTHING in our world in
: general. That seems to be the Old/Dark/Spider Gods'
: standing orders; our world is evil and a thing to be
: destroyed. They worked with Balor because he was the
: Leveller, destined to destroy the world. Working with
: other Dark commanders would just be helping one part
: of this world against the other, when they want them
: ALL destroyed. Soulblighter being the exception,
: because he promised to send them home (and probably
: could, as he knows all about the Tain realm too. Maybe
: even Myrdred could send them home - he's very skilled
: at interplanar magics).
But aiding the Dark would, in general, be the best way to help damage this world, and make it easier to destroy at the next great war. Yet Fetch seem to willingly attack both Dark and Light beings out of sheer pissed-offness. And again, the direct link Fetch magic gives them to their gods should allow for some divine communication--at the least, if they don't do something the gods want, GURPS says their powers could be temporarily or permanently shut down.
: As for their allegiance with other races like Spiders and
: Ghols, the Spiders could be animals like wolves, who
: are from their world and created by their god but are
: just hungry animals that will attack anything. And the
: Ghols are (A) Stupid animals who worship hunks of
: rocks thinking they ARE the Dark Gods, who the Fetch
: don't neccesarily know to be the same as their gods,
: and (B) From our world. Presumably. Actually, Ghols DO
: have that long-and-lanky look, plus the skin-and-bones
: head. Perhaps they are relics of the Dark Gods' world,
: pre-Wyrd, left behind because they're just stupid
: animals (same reason they weren't TRO-KIKd)?
Then wouldn't Fetch work with Dwarves, who consciously worship and interact with the Spider-Gods?
And Ghols are dog-monkeys. They look like dog-monkeys. Accept it. :-)
--SiliconDream