: Yes, Ravanna is Shiver's true name, Shiver being a name
: given to Ravanna by Balor, after he brought her spirit
: (post-mortem) into "corporeal form" with a
: magic mirror. As for using her name to defeat her, I
: don't think so. All of the principal characters in TFL
: and SB use each other's real names, but they don't
: seem to melt or turn to stone when those names are
: said. They don't even flinch. :)
: I've read all the *sanctioned* literature there is, and I
: don't really understand why this Ravanna-Shiver
: controversy exists. If someone could synopsize it in a
: couple of sentences that would be great. Nothing from
: GURPs, please. :)
Most people at the Asylum have agreed that GURPS is a valid source for information about Myth and is to be recognized. Since GURPS, I beleive, is the source of the controversy it makes it difficult for people who don't recognize GURPS to debate about such topics since their every response could simply be "but GURPS isn't true." You're welcome to beleive what you want about GURPS and I don't want to change your opinion.
: We *know* relatively little about her, except that she
: had something to do with the sixth Fallen Lord's head
: getting chopped off and that she got her ass kicked by
: the Deceiver. The rest of this debate seems to have
: grown out of deduction, rather than cold, hard
: evidence.
I think the Shiver debate is still valid and unsolved and such members as Milk Man and Silicon, among others make valid, well thought out theories that have yet to be disproved. But again, much of this debate is based on GURPS and for those who don't beleive GURPS they should probably ignore it.
