Re: Tooting the Old Horn:

Posted By: SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-175.HIP.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 1/18/2001 at 2:23 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Tooting the Old Horn: (Draggon)

: I'm just a newb here, but... i thought Ravanna was just
: Shiver's true name. You know how in a lot fantasy
: novels, saying a magician's true name helps you to
: defeat them? That would make sense in that scene. On
: the other hand, i don't remember seeing anything like
: that elsewhere in the Myth games.

There's one other case of it--when Alric had arrows made out of the Watcher's own arm, the narrator said having a piece of the Watcher was "like knowing his true name, only better."

Thing is, "Ravanna" doesn't just show up as Shiver's name in Myth2. GURPS lists Ravanna, the Voiceless One, as the sixth Fallen Lord (Soulblighter, The Watcher, The Deceiver, Shiver, The Lurker, The Voiceless One), separate from Shiver. So all our theories are trying to figure out why Shiver and Ravanna were generally treated as different people, but then identified as the same person by Myrdred in Myth II.

--SiliconDream

Messages In This Thread

• Tooting the Old Horn:
  Milk Man (ip74.herndon38.va.pub-ip.psi.net) -- 1/17/2001 at 10:52 p.m.
  • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
    Draggon (208.41.77.52) -- 1/18/2001 at 1:13 p.m.
    • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
      SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-175.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/18/2001 at 2:23 p.m.
    • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
      David Bricker (162.129.225.141) -- 1/18/2001 at 2:26 p.m.
      • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
        Thoth (ts6m-pool0-105.gti.net) -- 1/18/2001 at 4:03 p.m.
        • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
          Draggon (208.41.77.52) -- 1/18/2001 at 5:05 p.m.
          • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
            Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 1/18/2001 at 5:18 p.m.
            • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
              David Bricker (cc559987-a.hwrd1.md.home.com) -- 1/18/2001 at 5:45 p.m.
              • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 1/18/2001 at 5:53 p.m.
              • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-105.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/18/2001 at 5:56 p.m.
                • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                  Smasher (c1282351-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) -- 1/18/2001 at 10:01 p.m.
                  • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                    SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-168.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/19/2001 at 12:30 a.m.
                    • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                      Document (bgp584364bgs.jdover01.nj.comcast.net) -- 10/29/2005 at 4:57 p.m.
                      • Canon Categories (again)
                        Superfoborg (ip68-6-104-131.sb.sd.cox.net) -- 10/31/2005 at 6:53 p.m.
                • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
                  David Bricker (cc559987-a.hwrd1.md.home.com) -- 1/19/2001 at 8:08 a.m.
      • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
        SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-105.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/18/2001 at 6:04 p.m.
  • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
    General Pepper (145-222-pool1.P-POOL.MARIST.EDU) -- 10/27/2005 at 10:54 p.m.
    • dude...
      c?J?Iilk Man (069-064-230-161.pdx.net) -- 10/28/2005 at 2:55 p.m.
      • Re: dude...
        Superfoborg (ip68-6-104-131.sb.sd.cox.net) -- 10/28/2005 at 5:45 p.m.
    • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
      Gothmog (ool-43562f06.dyn.optonline.net) -- 10/31/2005 at 5:52 p.m.
      • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
        General Pepper (176-221-pool1.P-POOL.MARIST.EDU) -- 10/31/2005 at 6:07 p.m.
        • Re: Tooting the Old Horn:
          Gothmog (ool-43562f06.dyn.optonline.net) -- 10/31/2005 at 7:32 p.m.

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