: The personality differences could be explained by us
: seeing her true self, not her restrained human form.
: Perhaps some of her old spells were tied to her old
: body in some way, or to humanity in general, or she
: was simply less powerful because it takes time to
: build her power up and she didn't have long.
I'll buy that she lost her innate powers because of her new body--GURPS tells us that undead sorcerers can't generate as much magical power as living ones, which is probably one reason Soulblighter revivified his form after TFL--but she should still have been able to power her spells (Myth spells seem simply to be knowledge) using Energon Cubes or some other method. Unless her memory was damaged by reincarnation (which I suppose it could have been.)
: As for Forrest's idea, keep in mind that Myth's human's
: don't believe in reincarnation except for the great
: heroes. I doubt Shiver was reincarnated on her own.
Well, I ought to agree wholeheartedly with this, since it refutes a theory I disagree with. :-) But I don't think that when GURPS said "great heroes and villains" it meant THE great heroes and Levellers of each millennium. It just meant all the extraordinary folk like powerful Avatara, Fallen Lords and so forth. After all, many Myth folk seem to expect Mazzarin to reincarnate, and he was never a Great Hero or Leveller. And the Extra Lives advantage is available to most powerful archmages.
: My idea: Shiver and Ravanna are one and the same. Ravanna
: died way back and was brought back as Shiver by Balor.
: Perhaps due to the nature of some of her spells, she
: operated in secret as well as as a general.
But why were they thought to be two different Lords? The Light barely knows anything about the Ravanna identity; what would lead them to separate it from that of Shiver? And why would the Myth2 Shiver care about Myrdred calling her Ravanna? And what did the "strange bedfellows" thing mean in this context?
: Rabican killed her, Soulblighter brought her back via
: Tramist's mirror. Thanks to the methos of either her
: death or ressurection, she was much less powerful than
: before, not to mention uglier. This made her all
: pissy, which led her to be reckless and get killed.
: Speaking of her old appearance, there is evidence that
: she had two forms back in TFL. GURPS descibes her
: appearance as gauzy, and at turns beautiful and
: bestial. When we see her in Tales and TFL, she's a
: shriveled-up hag. Perhaps this is her way of hiding
: her face as all the other sorcerors in Myth do.
Well, I think the hag-form (which is probably the bestial one) is the true form; the beauty was some sort of glamour that affected her as much as (or more so) than others. Rabican tore the glamour away (you can see him uncloaking her eyes in Tales) and her wounded vanity distracted her.
--SiliconDream
