: Haven't you ever read Orson Scott Card's
: "Xenocide" or "Children of the
: Mind"? In them, Ender (the main character) goes
: outside the universe and his aiua (soul) creates the
: two figures most prominant in his mind; his brother
: (long dead) and sister (still living). His aiua is all
: three of them - Ender, Peter, and Val - at once,
: though it turns out his aiua only has enough attention
: to hold two bodies in reality at once and the one
: getting the least attention starts dying.
: Shiver/Ravanna's soul could just be doing like Ender's
: - runnning two bodies at the same time.
Um. No, I haven't read either of these (I started losing interest halfway through Speaker of the Dead, and then I tried skim Xenocide and just gave up). I understand the concept; I just don't see how it applies to Myth. All the cases of reincarnation we know about involve progression from one body to the next. I don't think it's warranted to add in the ability of one soul to control multiple bodies unknowingly and simultaneously.
: The remaining Fallen Lords were hunted down at the end of
: the Great War. The Humans considered the Voiceless One
: separate from Shiver - so the narrator must have meant
: that the Voiceless One, the Faceless Man (if they knew
: about him at all), the Lurker, and the Deceiver were
: all hunted down and killed (The Watcher and Shiver
: being dead, and Soulblighter being presumed dead).
But if Ravanna died too, then (again) why was Shiver's spirit floating around bodiless? Ravanna would have died *after* Shiver, so the spirit would have spent a period of existence as an ordinary one-body creature, and then would have perished in the ordinary fashion and moved on to whatever awaits you in the Myth afterlife.
: No, no... we're (at least I am) saying there are TWO
: SEPARATE BODIES. The Ravanna-bodie died. The soul was
: reborn in the Shiver-body. The Ravanna-body was
: revived, and the soul controlled both of them at once.
: Presumably neither of them had eachothers' memories,
: as Ravanna wouldn't remeber what happened in the life
: after hers, and reincarnations tend not to hold
: previous lives' memories. (The soul, however, when
: made corporeal itself, seems to hold all memories).
: So Shiver could have walked up and shook Ravanna's hand,
: though the two were held by the same soul.
So why didn't Shiver want Myrdred to say she was Ravanna?
--SiliconDream
