: 1) I still don't see how the spirit would be in the two
: bodies *at the same time*. Do Shiver and Ravanna
: alternate waking and sleeping periods as the spirit
: moves between bodies?
Haven't you ever read Orson Scott Card's "Xenocide" or "Children of the Mind"? In them, Ender (the main character) goes outside the universe and his aiua (soul) creates the two figures most prominant in his mind; his brother (long dead) and sister (still living). His aiua is all three of them - Ender, Peter, and Val - at once, though it turns out his aiua only has enough attention to hold two bodies in reality at once and the one getting the least attention starts dying. Shiver/Ravanna's soul could just be doing like Ender's - runnning two bodies at the same time.
: 2) It must have been the Shiver spirit which subsided,
: since the Myth2 Shiver is named Ravanna and lacks
: Shiver's powers. And of course it was the Shiver body
: which Rabican destroyed. But then the Shiver/Ravanna
: spirit would have Ravanna's body to inhabit. So why
: was it floating around bodiless until Soulblighter
: rescued it? And why was she worried about Myrdred's
: figuring out that Shiver and Ravanna were the same
: being?
The remaining Fallen Lords were hunted down at the end of the Great War. The Humans considered the Voiceless One separate from Shiver - so the narrator must have meant that the Voiceless One, the Faceless Man (if they knew about him at all), the Lurker, and the Deceiver were all hunted down and killed (The Watcher and Shiver being dead, and Soulblighter being presumed dead).
: Actually, my main problem with this theory is neither of
: these. I just don't see why anyone would have believed
: originally that Shiver and Ravanna were different
: Lords. Unless there's some kind of physical
: transformation, why wouldn't people just assume that
: they were the same being? And even if there *was* a
: physical transformation, wouldn't the Fallen Lords
: themselves (and certainly Balor) know about it?
No, no... we're (at least I am) saying there are TWO SEPARATE BODIES. The Ravanna-bodie died. The soul was reborn in the Shiver-body. The Ravanna-body was revived, and the soul controlled both of them at once. Presumably neither of them had eachothers' memories, as Ravanna wouldn't remeber what happened in the life after hers, and reincarnations tend not to hold previous lives' memories. (The soul, however, when made corporeal itself, seems to hold all memories).
So Shiver could have walked up and shook Ravanna's hand, though the two were held by the same soul.
