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Re: Who rules now?

Posted By: Forrest of B.org (cache2.avtel.net)
Date: 9/7/2000 at 1:29 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Who rules now? (SiliconDream =PN=)

: "Always" from the East? I thought we only knew
: about one pre-Alric victorious champion's birth
: region--Connacht/Balor. Given that both Alric and
: Moagim Reborn came from the West, and that that
: Myrkridian tomb is in the West, I'd say that--if
: anything--the Chaos champions are always born in the
: West and the Order champions always arise in the East.
: This somewhat conflicts with my tentative belief that
: the north/northwest is the realm of order and the
: south/southeast is the realm of chaos--but I'm not
: really strongly in favor of either theory, so I don't
: worry about it. :-)

Second Era tradition tells of a hero rising in the East. The Second Era was the Age of Reason, so that was Tireces, and thus the Alric/Chaos spirit is not always from the west. So we know Tireces came from the East, Connacht came from the east, Balor - who should've won this era - came from the east. It seems likely that Moagim would have come from the east as well, given this pattern. Don't you remember the cycles of geography I came up with a while back?

We know the comet rose in the East when Balor did. We know it rose in the West when Connacht came from the East. Those are the only times we're given directions, and it's not much to base a pattern on, but from that pattern it looks like the comet always comes from the same direction as the Leveller. And given the above pattern, with the victor always arising in the east, that means you'd get a two-era cycle like this:

Leveller from East and Hero from West with Comet from East - Leveller wins
Hero from East and Leveller from West with Comet from West - Hero wins.

Which, when intersected with your four-era cycle and our geographic axis, gets you:

Orderly Leveller from Extremeist East and Chaotic Hero from Balanced West with Comet from East - Orderly Leveller wins.
Chaotic Hero from Extremeist East and Orderly Leveller from Balanced West with Comet from West - Chaotic Hero wins.
Chaotic Leveller from Extremeist East and Orderly Hero from Balanced West with Comet from East - Chaotic Leveller wins.
Orderly Hero from Extremeist East and Chaotic Leveller from Balanced West with Comet from West - Orderly Hero wins.

You know, I think I may have just answered my own question, looking at this, though it does create a new question. The victor, whether Light or Dark, orderly or chaotic, always comes from the extremeist east. This could have something to do with those further to the extremes being inherantly more powerfull, but then shouldn't the Dark always win?

And do chaotic heroes/levellers come from the southeast/southwest and orderly ones from the northeast/northwest? Connacht and Alric, the only Heroes/Levellers whose home towns we know, both seem to have come from right around the center, with Gower and Covenant being more or less Mediterranean.

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  • Who rules now?
    esmallestben (webcacheW03b.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 9/4/2000 at 2:08 p.m.
    • Re: Who rules now?
      Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 9/4/2000 at 2:14 p.m.
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        esmallestben (webcacheH13a.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 9/4/2000 at 3:43 p.m.
        • Re: Who rules now?
          Mumbles (proxy4-external.rdc1.on.home.com) -- 9/4/2000 at 4:29 p.m.
        • Re: Who rules now?
          Forrest of B.org (cache2.avtel.net) -- 9/4/2000 at 4:41 p.m.
          • Re: Who rules now?
            SiliconDream =PN= (169.2.49.247) -- 9/4/2000 at 6:18 p.m.
          • Re: Who rules now?
            Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 9/4/2000 at 8:28 p.m.
            • Re: Who rules now?
              Forrest of B.org (cache2.avtel.net) -- 9/5/2000 at 1:13 a.m.
            • Re: Who rules now?
              SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-5.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/5/2000 at 1:43 a.m.
              • Re: Who rules now?
                Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 9/5/2000 at 5:52 p.m.
                • Re: Who rules now?
                  Forrest of B.org (cache2.avtel.net) -- 9/5/2000 at 10:43 p.m.
                • Re: Who rules now?
                  SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-136.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/6/2000 at 4:23 a.m.
                  • Re: Who rules now?
                    Discordia (cx312661-a.santab1.ca.home.com) -- 9/6/2000 at 6:26 p.m.
                  • Re: Who rules now?
                    Forrest (at Work) (adsl-63-203-135-169.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) -- 9/6/2000 at 6:51 p.m.
                    • Re: Who rules now?
                      SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-96.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/7/2000 at 12:48 a.m.
                      • Re: Who rules now?
                        Forrest of B.org (cache2.avtel.net) -- 9/7/2000 at 1:29 a.m.
                        • Re: Who rules now?
                          SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-60.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/7/2000 at 4:41 a.m.
          • Re: Who rules now?
            Constantine Mog (AC9958BC.ipt.aol.com) -- 9/5/2000 at 10:05 a.m.
            • Re: Who rules now?
              Forrest (at Work) (adsl-63-203-135-169.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) -- 9/5/2000 at 3:26 p.m.

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