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Re: Who makes a shade?

Posted By: SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-21.HIP.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 8/29/2000 at 7:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Who makes a shade? (IronDuke)

: Also weird - Mazzarin was the greatest sorcerer, which
: means the Watcher was not as powerful. How, then, did
: the Watcher defeat Mazzarin? Was Mazzarin's power only
: sufficient for six waves of thrall?

According to GURPS the thrall numbered in the thousands. I guess either they weakened him to the point where the Watcher could finish him off, or else the Watcher held/distracted him unti the Thrall could overwhelm him.

: Also, if the Watcher did defeat Mazzarin, and made him
: a shade, he would likely rob him of most of his power,
: both to avoid Mazzarin rebelling against him, and as
: a humiliation - Ha, some sorcerer now aren't we? A
: shade without energon cubes!

It does appear from GURPS that Shades can't channel as much raw magical power as living sorcerers--which is why they need those energon cubes so badly. So a Mazzarin-Shade would be less powerful than the original, if not less knowledgeable. I think it'd still be weird, though. :-)

: I'm sure this'll be disproved by Gurps ;)

GURPS ends its Mazzarin section with "Mazzarin had been dead for decades [before Connacht's great war], slain in an ambush laid by the Watcher and thousands of his Thralls[sic]. Still, many doubt death can hold its grip on such a man."

Now you could, I suppose, take this as indicating that Mazzarin turned himself into a Shade when he was about to die. The most straightforward interpretation, though, seems to me to be that he died *without* becoming undead, but lots of people expect him to be reincarnated in a living form, like the Deceiver or the Eternal Champions, since he's such an amazing sorcerer.

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