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Re: Iron and the Younger Races

Posted By: SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-162.HIP.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 8/22/2000 at 3:38 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Iron and the Younger Races (Discordia)

: Actually, the Trow _do_ use spears (actually they are
: more like halbreds) and swords. You can see them
: weilding these weapons in the bungie sanctioned comic
: "Tales from Myth TFL."
: I have no idea, but they seemed to wear horned helmets
: (seen in the same comic).

A Trow's eyes and ears and mouth may be their primary weak point, against archers and such. A helmet can cover the only parts of their body which their skin can't protect.

: GURPS Myth (also Bungie sanctioned, and an excellent
: source) states clearly that Myth Dwarves esed battle
: axes, armor, etc... (there is also a weapon called the
: "Maul of the Dwarven kings," A maul is a
: great club-like thing used like a mace).
: Sure it's not one of the hardest things to _see_ them
: using, but it's harder to learn how from simple
: observation. If that were true than every medieval
: villager worth his salt would be an instant
: blacksmith. Swords and armor are quite hard to make,
: let alone develope. The Trow are not know for thier
: generosity....
: Interesting comparison, played a little too much Myth
: Golf lately ;P
: Not true. Humanity began in the "Axe Age,"
: suggesting stone or bronze axes....

Well, he did say "recorded history". And the Axe Age is prehistoric.

We know Berserks of Connacht's time had iron or steel claymores--at least, it looks like it from their sprites. :-) That gives us an upper limit on the time when humans discovered iron; for a lower one, see below.

: The reason Trow corrupted Iron was not from thier working
: of it, but from thier use of it in the act of
: Genocide. They completely wiped out a race, children
: and elders included, without mercy. This was what
: "poisoned the soul of Iron."

This is possible. What I think the Forest Giants are complaining about, though, is that the Trow *first* developed ironworking and everyone else learned it from them. So iron's soul was already irretrievably poisoned by the time humans started using it. The younger races can't be blamed for borrowing an existing innovation--it's the Trow's fault for corrupting iron in the first place and giving everyone else the idea.

You'll notice in GURPS that the Trow started using iron about halfway through the Age of Reason. And that the first mention of human use of iron ("while human knowledge of iron and magic expanded as well") comes just after this. So it's likely that the inventive younger races--this was the Age of Reason, after all, when science probably flourished--picked up almost immediately on the rudiments of ironworking and maybe magic as demonstrated by the Trow, and took off on their own. Humans and Trow then developed iron technology side by side until the Trow gave it up.

--SiliconDream

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