: In M2 and GURPS, we learn that the Smiths of Muirthemne
: founded the Spider Cults. "Spider-gods" is
: the term we came up with to reffer to the gods the
: Spider Cults worship. Since the Dwarves have the
: longest relationship with Spiders, that further
: strengthens the theory that the Smiths were Dwarves.
I have no problems with the Dwarves being the Cultists, but I really doubt that the spiders came from another dimesion. We know that they don't only exist in the Tain (there is a unused flavor saying how humans threaten thier children with tales of "the many-legged buggers," or something to that effect. The Tain is an extradimensional pocket that, as we see when it's broken, has nothing outside of it, no Spider world, no Fetch world, no nothing (double negative :P). BTW where did you get the story about the spider queens being summoned from skulls? As far as I remember thats how the Myrkridia are summoned.... In my view the spiders are just as part of this world as the Dwarves, the Krids and the Trow.
: GURPS says that some believe that the Great Devoid ends
: in another dimension, perhaps that of the Fetch. It
: also says that the Dwarves have explored the Devoid
: where it connects to their underground tunnels - the
: same tunnels the TFL manual spoke of housing spiders.
Sure the tunnels hold spider... they like dark, damp places, which I'm sure the Devoid's tunnels would be sure to provide. As for the Devoid ending in another dimension, that theory has never held that much water in my eyes. I think that maybe saying the spiders came out of it may be a small bit of circuitous logic.
: Also, the Smiths of Muirthemne seemed to have a penchant
: for lightning, much like the Fetch. And the Tain gate
: has a number of intereting engravings, one of which
: looks like something related to the Fetch (a horned
: female alien thing).
If lighting makes things allied with the fetch then count Alric in too, remember Balmung? Just because something produces a similar effect to another thing doesn't mean that they are one and the same. As for the engraving I tend to agree more with the "Legends and Lore" section of B.org in that it looks oddly like some of H.P. Lovecraft's creations. Also remember that the fetch weren't around at the same time as the smiths. The smiths built a bunch of stuff and then dissapeared around the time of Connacht (spelled right?). Balor later summoned them from another dimension during his reign as the Leveler.
: There are lands beyond Wyrd's vision - the Untamed Lands,
: the Far East, the Faraway - suggesting that Wyrd
: simply created a "world" on one part of an
: existing planet. Also, the Ghols remember the Dark
: Gods' names and worship them, suggesting that they
: were their subjects before Wyrd created his world,
: perhaps living in a part of the world southeast of
: their current home.
I think that actually the fact that the people of Myth believe that Wyrd only created they're part of the world is nothing more than petty vanity or ignorance. I think it's probably safe to believe that the Myth world is a globe and that the "known lands" are but a small part of it. The lands surrounding Myth are pretty forbidding, the Unknown lands are ghols infested, the East, wasteland and the far west, and ocean. This probably led the ruler of the nations to say that the lands past these barriers didn't exist and leave it at that. Remember that only a paltry few hundred years ago, the unwashed masses of _our_ world still belived that it was flat and had a bottemless edge. Also, If my theory is incorrect, one of yours is as well. You yourself just said that Ghols live near the Devoid, which is _definently_ part of Wyrds vision.
-Discordia
