: Just a wee question, where the heck did you come up with
: "Spider Gods?" The only mention of them is
: in the Muirthenme Spider Cults, something totally
: different from the fetch. The fetch are from a whole
: different world/dimesion.
Long story...
It started in TFL when people observed that only Dwarves could pick up crystals in the Tain, making some people think that perhaps the Dwarves were the Smiths of Muirthemne, who built the Tain. Then it was noted that the Spider description in the TFL manual describes them as being from Dwarven legend, and since Spiders are in the Tain, that strengthened the theory.
In M2 and GURPS, we learn that the Smiths of Muirthemne founded the Spider Cults. "Spider-gods" is the term we came up with to reffer to the gods the Spider Cults worship. Since the Dwarves have the longest relationship with Spiders, that further strengthens the theory that the Smiths were Dwarves.
The Tain transports people to another dimension. In "Tales From Myth:TFL", we see shrines inside the Tain, which transport people's souls to some etheral realm (which we call the Spider-world) and bring Spiders Queens in through the resulting corpses' skulls. So spiders are from another dimension, like Fetch.
GURPS says that some believe that the Great Devoid ends in another dimension, perhaps that of the Fetch. It also says that the Dwarves have explored the Devoid where it connects to their underground tunnels - the same tunnels the TFL manual spoke of housing spiders.
Also, the Smiths of Muirthemne seemed to have a penchant for lightning, much like the Fetch. And the Tain gate has a number of intereting engravings, one of which looks like something related to the Fetch (a horned female alien thing).
So a little while back it occured to me that the Spider-world and the Fetch dimension are likely the same place, what with all these connections here. Thinking about it more, it dawned on me that the Callieach, who created the Great Devoid, might have something to do with all this if it really does lead to the Spider/Fetch world (which would explain how the Spiders got into the Dwarven tunnels, crawling up the Devoid).
Now there's the connection to the Dark Gods, which I also toyed with back then but threw out, leaving it only as a ploy used against the Ghols in the story I wrote about this theory. The Ghols worship the Dark Gods. They, like the Dwarves, live around the Great Devoid, which could explain why they worship the Dark Gods, if they are the Spider Gods who live in the other dimension to which the Great Devoid leads.
: Also, I'm pretty sure that the world began with Wyrd. The
: Dark Gods didn't have one to themselves. They might
: have been sorta like Cronos in Norse Mythology. He was
: an uberpowerfull god, but didn't make the world.
There are lands beyond Wyrd's vision - the Untamed Lands, the Far East, the Faraway - suggesting that Wyrd simply created a "world" on one part of an existing planet. Also, the Ghols remember the Dark Gods' names and worship them, suggesting that they were their subjects before Wyrd created his world, perhaps living in a part of the world southeast of their current home.
