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wow this is the longest thread ive ever seen =)

Posted By: DarkSkies (acy431.dandy.net)
Date: 2/29/2000 at 3:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Myth Comic Questions... (David Wellington)

: Hell, I see pathos in what happened to Damas, but then
: I'm just a big sap. Seriously, though, the level I've
: created isn't meant to make you get all weepy about
: Myrdred as much as it's supposed to flesh out his
: character a little more, explain some of his
: motivations and make him seem a bit more human. Gosh,
: I really want to spoil it, it's some of the best
: writing I've done in a while... but no. Of course, the
: pathos might work better for you, since you're one of
: Myrdred's personal servants... bet you're regretting
: signing that standard release form now, huh? MWAH HA
: HA HA HA HA...

: My feeling is that the krids were a problem all over. I'm
: pretty sure that at the time at least the Province and
: most likely all of the west was under Muirthemne's
: control as well, and therefore our pointy-hatted
: buddies from Madrigal would be subjects of the empire.
: Why do I think this? Despite the fact that the West is
: obviously an absolute monarchy, the big cities are
: called the Free Cities, which means that the rest of
: the continent was at some point Not Free. The Province
: could be the Province of any given country--it's
: halfway between the superpowers, so to speak--but if
: you have Free Cities you have Not-So-Free Cities,
: which means somebody was in charge. Mind, I'm not in
: the slightest bit sure of this, and I make no mention
: of it in my scenario, but... well, anyway, I can't see
: the Avataras sitting on their hands while skullmounds
: start popping up on every farm west of the Cloudspine.
: Myrdred and buds would have done something about the
: problem--which means they would have eventually bumped
: into Connacht, if only while he was mopping up the
: last of the krids. Very bad joke starts NOW: What did
: Connacht say when he found Myrdred fighting back the
: Myrkridian menace with nothing but a cloudkill?
: "Silly avatara, don't you know tains are for
: krids?"

: I think it's supposed to be a composite rather than a
: group portrait. Rabican appears in his armor because
: that's how everyone remembers him, fighting Shiver.
: You're right about the discrepancies in costume,
: though. Hmmm.

: I'm pretty sure Alric's outfit was supposed to be an
: hommage to French Weird Comics Sensation Moebius, who
: was always drawing people in big sausage hats with
: face paint and such. Changing Alric's wardrobe for
: Myth II might have been out of a desire not to look so
: derivative, but I miss the old greyface.

: We do know that Rabican had the best combat skills--he
: was probably the Light equivalent of Soulblighter in
: this at least. I've always felt it was kind of fishy
: that you would send your weakest magician to fight the
: enemy's (arguably) strongest magician, unless this was
: some kind of elaborate trap, where she was lured into
: thinking she'd get an easy victory...

: Alric, even after he's had a chance to change his clothes
: (and you'd think he'd want to after spending all that
: time in the desert without a shower) sticks to his
: pointy hat. It may be that he needed some freedom of
: movement to work his various spells--all that
: gesturing and lifting eblis stones would get pretty
: tiring in full plate, I suppose. The magic armor he
: was after would have been an exception, since it
: provided the wearer added stamina.

: Oh, who am I kidding? I've gone way out on a limb here
: with this point about pointy hats. Obviously you don't
: need one to be an avatara. Heck, I'm about ready to
: concede right now. Once again you've bludgeoned me
: into a corner, SD, you sneaky bastard.

: Now you're psychic as well.

: But hey, Myrdred and Soulblighter don't seem to have any
: distinct animosity in the Great War (I'm sure you'll
: correct me if I'm missing something, but it seemed
: like the big conflict was Deceiver vs. Watcher, and SB
: just took advantage of their squabbling to move his
: own troops into position). It seems to come from the
: D's supporting Alric. This I can understand; they were
: allies under Connacht (whether or not they fought
: together), they were allies under Balor, but when SB
: makes his own play the D switches teams. That would
: bug me a little, too.

: You're right, there should be some mention of the D
: serving Connacht. The fact that there isn't bothers
: me. The fact that there's no mention at all of what he
: did during the Wolf Age makes me think I can do as I
: please. For Asylum purposes I concede there is no
: proof of a link between Myrdred and Connacht, though I
: wish there was. I do think he would have fought the
: krids, however, and probably the Trow as well.

: Stipulated (as they keep saying in the Black Company
: books).

: You have, as usual, a very good point. I still feel kind
: of iffy about invoking characters who don't exist in
: the game, however.

: Okay, logic and common sense agree with you here so I'll
: jump on the bandwagon. Just one quick point: I feel
: that "Avatara", regardless of what GURPS
: does or doesn't say, does not specifically mean
: "powerful magic guy who lives in Madrigal".
: My personal feeling is that it merely means someone
: who took the time to track down a runestone and now
: has control of a Dream. It would make sense that
: Muirthemne would have access to all the weapons
: Madrigal would possess and so I think there were
: probably Cath Bruig Avatara as well. I'm basing this
: on how the various flavor texts "feel" and
: "read" rather than direct evidence, but my
: intuition is that the Avatara were a force to be
: reckoned with long before Madrigal even had a post
: office or a traffic light. The fact that the Nine
: operate out of Madrigal means little, since it's the
: only city they COULD operate out of by the end of the
: Great War--even Covenant was ruined and occupied.

: I went through a similar experience in high school and I
: can tell you that things get a lot less weird as time
: goes on. Also, and I never thought I'd say this, try
: not to get too angry with her parents. I don't know
: enough to really preach to you, so I won't, but I know
: in my experience the anger and spite were actually
: just byproducts of the love and concern the parents
: felt for their child--this sort of thing scares the
: snot out of the suicidee's Mom and Dad and since they
: can't solve the problem on their own sometimes the
: fear turns into anger, which gets misplaced. It's a
: situation most people don't and can't understand and
: so they lash out because they feel something horrible
: encroaching on their lives.

: That being said I don't know the details. I do know your
: GF will need all the support you can give her in the
: next few months--she'll need to feel like you don't
: hate her or blame her for what she did, that she's not
: crazy, etc.--so I'll keep up the positive vibes. IMHO,
: it's best not to antagonize the parents, since no
: matter how pissed she gets she'll still think of them
: as family and if you drive a wedge in there it'll just
: make things worse. Your anger is perfectly
: understandable, but for her sake I'd reccomend not
: acting on it or displaying it too often. Vent on ghols
: instead--they make better noises when you hit them.

: Whatever the situation (and I'll reiterate: I don't have
: all the details), remember you've got friends here.

: What? Did you say something? I'm sorry, my ears seem to
: have fallen off... I'm sure they're around here
: somewhere...

: Not unless you know how to invoke the Internal Game
: Epilogue tag. I want a postscript on my scenario but
: it seems that the leveller speech at the end of M2 is
: hard-coded to only come up when you win level 25.

: And hey, since you asked: do you know why the damn game
: crashes so much? I have five levels, right, and
: there's a journeyman hero who must be a veteran all
: the way through--if he dies in the second level he
: doesn't come back. So the game has to be played all
: the way through without crashing. Yet for some reason,
: every time you hit "next level" after level
: four, the game just gives up and kicks you into the
: finder. You can play level five just fine if you
: choose it as a new game, but otherwise, forget about
: it.

: Oh, and do you know what a monster source is?

: Hehe, and you thought I would want emotional support...
: sucker!

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