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Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b
Posted By: Chris t' Crappy (17.mercerville-43-44rs.nj.dial-access.att.net)
Date: 1/11/2000 at 5:43 p.m.
In Response To: Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b (David Wellington)
: Which was kind of my point--the Dark has geared down for
: the winter because they expect not to face any serious
: resistance coming over the mountains. They are leaving
: the Watcher's army there, just in case. The Five
: Champions make use of new dwarven technology--the
: balloon and parachutes--which Balor and friends cannot
: expect because they're all used to the tech of the
: Wolf Age. So when the champions show up quite
: literally out of the blue, they catch the Deceiver's
: forces unaware.
I dont know. At this point in the game, I have ahard time believing Balor would allow such a slip-up. His record is flawless up to this point (Shiver's loss doesn't count, the Head screwed things up, which Balor could niether prevent or foresee) and the only loss he takes (other than his own demise) is the fault of the Watcher's, who let his fued get the best of him.
As for the Legion, I'm sure they wouldn't risk sending an entire army over the mountains just for one man. They'd lose a lot of lives in the cold, add discontentment, ghol and souless raids and you have a pretty unhappy army. Mutiny would run rampany and morale would plunge. After all, it doesn't take a day to cross the Clouspine. By the time the Legion got half-way across, Balor would have his troops esembled and ready to fight. Until he saw signs of this, he probably would have spent his time with Alric or at least guarding the important man.
: What I meant was that no one could have foreseen the
: second coming of Soulblighter. Alric doesn't set up a
: deal with the Deceiver to help him later because he
: isn't aware--at the time--that he's going to need such
: help.
I know what you meant, the Deceiver may not have set up a deal because he figured that Alric would kill Balor and leave the other Lords alone. But, the deal could have been short-term. He gave Alric some info, then Alric let him be. The Deceiver figured he was in the clear but the Watcher blind-sided him and his plan went to hell. Maybe the Deceiver gave Alric the info and promised to take care of the Watcher for the Legion. Who knows.
: GURPS, I believe, merely says that the link wasn't as
: strong as previously believed, and as a result the
: Fallen would NOT just keel over when Balor got
: whacked. It doesn't say anything about their being no
: link at all. Balor is still alive, as you say, so the
: link is still in force until the head is going, going
: gone. Therefore whatever is flowing through the link
: remains in effect until the final cutscene of Myth
: TFL--therefore we NEVER *see* a Fallen Lord after the
: link is broken. That's all I was on about, here.
Well, GURPS implies that the Fallen Lords had a set-up similar to the Nine, which leads me to believe that they did their own things and contributed their own ideas. My main gripe is with people who say, "Once Balor falls (or fell) the other Fallen Lords will fall and lose their power as well." ...which is apparently false.
: A good theory, and "bent to his will"
: definitely suggests this, but there is also evidence
: of power flowing through the link, though the kind of
: power is unspecified. It isn't just Balor's will,
: however--it has to be some kind of practical, useful
: power. Mana would fit the bill, but the argument over
: that shows how unlikely it is. Political/Material
: power would also work, though it sounds (even to me,
: who proposed it) like a very weird interpretation of
: the text.
I still don't see (maybe I overlooked it) the evidence that supports the idea that there was power running through from Balor to the Fallen Lords. Seems to me that Balor would have weakened or lessened his flow of power to the Fallen Lords once they started acting up and bickering with each other (the Watcher and Deceiver) in order to put them back on task (destroying the Legion).
Chris
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