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Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b

Posted By: Dan Rudolph (319-A-42-130.ppp.mcleodusa.net)
Date: 1/9/2000 at 3:49 p.m.

In Response To: Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b (Charon)

: Soublighter is not invincible to sword blows at the Great
: Devoid as he is througout Myth II. On timid, you can
: actually defeat him just using zerks at the Great
: Devoid, driving him off. No such thing in Myth II.
: This seems to go along with the idea that Soulblighter
: has used all of his magical power to maintain his
: immortality--with the loss of Balor, he lost some of
: that protection.

Soulblighter was not a sorceror in TFL. He had no magic to lose. He became a sorceror studying in his secret temple between TFl and Myth II. It says this much in GURPS.

: Or maybe Alric can read minds? Or maybe Balor slipped up?
: In any case, you're trying to prove that the D was the
: one who tipped Alric off. If so, he must have assumed
: Balor's form (as Chris postualtes), or Alric wouldn't
: have claimed it was Balor who he found out from.
: So--why would the D do that? You answer that
: below...I'll get there.

No, I think Balor must have been there. After all, Alric had apparently really been interrogated. The Deceiver must have also been there, as it was his army that had captured Alric. Alric didn't claim he found the info out from Balor, only that he learned it by chance. As for Alric's mind-reading powers: that's baseless speculation. We have no indication such powers even exist in Myth. Balor slipping up seems unlikely.

: What about those half a million in front of Rhi'Anon? You
: can bet that the few thousand of the Legion barely
: made a dent in them, and Alric's tiny remainder of an
: army after the Great Devoid couldn't have taken them
: out...unless they all disappeared. If they didn't fall
: apart, Soulblighter would have taken control of them
: and continued the work of his master, rather than
: fleeing. This also explains the Deceiver's defeat, if
: the Deceiver himself weren't weakened--all his undead
: died off, leaving him only those whom he had charmed.
: Hence, the refernce to the "remnants of his
: army" in the pre-game text to the "Stair of
: Grief."

According to GURPS, they wouldn't fall apart, but the mindless undead could end up wandering aimlessly.

: You say this in response to the idea that Alric got some
: info wrong. Why is it such a cop-out? The Nine have
: made mistakes...for instance, they initially misjudged
: the relationship between Balor and the Fallen Lords.
: It's more likely than the alternative.

Yes, but that was an assumption. They didn't screw up info they got. While this happens in real life, it makes for such a cheap plot device that it rarely turns up in fiction.

: OK, so...the Deceiver CAN'T just slip some info to Alric,
: because Balor or the shades would notice, but he CAN
: assume Balor's shape and interrogate Alric. Wouldn't
: someone notice "Balor" was in two place at
: once? Or, if Balor wasn't there, the shades would have
: noticed the Deceiver taking on Balor's form. This
: leaves the idea that Alric wouldn't have trusted the
: Deceiver...why? He trusts him in Myth II...and would
: very likely believe the Deceiver if the D told him
: "I'm an avatara being forced to help Balor, but I
: really want to help you. Kill Balor and I can help
: you." The D wouldn't bother with tricking Alric.

I didn't say that. In fact, I said that wasn't the case and you pretty much point out why. Balor must have really interrogated Alric, or the Deceiver wouldn't have gotten away with it, besides making the theory unnecessarily complicated.

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