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Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b
Posted By: Dan Rudolph (324-A-43-119.ppp.mcleodusa.net)
Date: 1/9/2000 at 1:16 p.m.
In Response To: Re: READ THIS, NOT BELOW (I hit "POST" b (Charon)
: First, let's remember that it's never implied Balor gives
: Alric the info--Alric gets it himself, while his mind
: is being probed. Balor probably wasn't aware that
: Alric found this out. Second, the info was right in
: the sense that a) There's reason to believe both
: Soulblighter and The Deceiver were weakened
The Deceiver could also have been weakened by his fight with the Watcher. How was Soulblighter weakened? He wasn't even a sorceror. He didn't have any power he could have drawn from Balor. Also, he was quite the bad-ass at the Great Devoid.
As for the mind probe, we have no evidence any such thing took place. It merely says Alric was interrogated. This is every bit as speculative as saying the Deceiver let it slip out.
: b) The armies of the Dark did fall,
Most of them fell before Balor's death. The remaining lords lost their leadership and there fore their ability to work in tandem and were therefore easy pickings.
: c) The Fallen Lords had been under the control of Balor,
: and then suddenly weren't,
That actually helps our arguement. It gives a motive for the Deceiver to want to get rid of Balor. It's said elsewhere they were bound to him. This isn't the same as drawing power from him.
: and, besides, d) If Alric got any false info,
: it was probably because of the circumstances under
: which he obtained it (i.e., severe duress).
That's a cop-out answer.
: You're right that the Deceiver clearly was unhappy with
: being controlled by Balor. The D may have subverted
: Balor in many ways. However, this one idea that The D
: was the interrogator and fed Alric false info is
: unlikely given no evidence, and a clear lack of
: motive: If the D was acting out of loyalty to the
: Light, he simply would have told Alric his plans;
Unless he couldn't because Balor was there, or Alric wouldn't have trusted him, or the shades would have told Balor. He would have to work covertly in this case.
I still think that Balor was interrogating Alric, but the Deceiver is the one who made sure he found out "by chance" that killing Balor would destroy the dark armies.
: if the D was acting to ultimately control the Dark (which
: is much more plausible), again, it's curious that the
: D would act behind Alric's back--he should've
: pretended to be Alric's ally because the D knew that
: if Balor fell, it would mean his downfall too if he
: remained allied with the Dark (and he did remain
: allied with the Dark, and he did fall...into the ice.
: He didn't have any way of knowing ahead of time he'd
: miraculously survive and be rescued sixty years
: later).
I think the Warlocks were supposed to rescue him, but couldn't without the staff.
: So, the conclusion we can draw is this: there's something
: fishy going on in the general Myth world, just not in
: this specific case. The one reason we have to believe
: something is up--the relative ease with which the Five
: Champions rescue Alric--can be explained away by the
: same phenomenon that allowed Alric to defeat Balor,
: with relative ease, at The Last Battle.
He defeated Balor because he had the Ebilis stone. There was no trup card in the Five Champions.
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