Re: Analysis of Shiver

Posted By: Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net)
Date: 1/8/2000 at 8:55 p.m.

In Response To: Analysis of Shiver (Dan Rudolph)

: I think he does have some loyalty to Alric/the Cath Bruig
: though, as his actions before the Wall don't make any
: sense otherwise. I don't think it was a matter of
: wanting to kill Shiver himself, since he has no
: problem letting Alric kill Soulblighter.

I agree with just about everything you've offered so far except this. What "actions before the Wall" are you refering to? If you mean his indignance with Shiver's actions, it might just be that he's so aching for revenge, he'll do anything to thwart Shiver and Soulblighter.

The faking of his death reflects a wish to reappear as master of the Dark...what loyalty to the Cath Bruig is there in this?

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• Analysis of Shiver
  Dan Rudolph (320-A-42-192.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/8/2000 at 6:19 p.m.
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    Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net) -- 1/8/2000 at 8:55 p.m.
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      David Wellington (dialup-209.244.78.72.Denver1.Level3.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 12:21 a.m.
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      Dan Rudolph (320-A-42-147.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:17 a.m.
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        Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:04 p.m.
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          Dan Rudolph (207-A-36-48.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:22 p.m.
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          Chris t' Crappy (177.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:29 p.m.
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            Charon (207-172-37-12.s12.tnt7.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:50 p.m.
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              Chris t' Crappy (177.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:01 p.m.
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                Charon (207-172-39-177.s177.tnt10.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:18 p.m.
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                  Dan Rudolph (319-A-42-130.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:59 p.m.
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                    Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:10 p.m.
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                      Chris t' Crappy (39.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:28 p.m.
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    SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/8/2000 at 10:35 p.m.
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      Dan Rudolph (320-A-42-147.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:43 a.m.
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        SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:37 a.m.
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          Dan Rudolph (320-A-42-147.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:13 a.m.
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            SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:26 p.m.
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              Forrest (cache1.avtel.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:51 p.m.
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                Dan Rudolph (319-A-42-130.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:06 p.m.
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                SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:38 p.m.
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          Chris t' Crappy (218.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 9:16 a.m.
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            Dan Rudolph (324-A-43-119.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:18 p.m.
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              Chris t' Crappy (177.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:25 p.m.
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          Charon (207-172-37-12.s12.tnt7.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:48 p.m.
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            SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:34 p.m.
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              Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:32 p.m.
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                Chris t' Crappy (108.mercerville-43-44rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:53 p.m.
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                Dan Rudolph (319-A-42-130.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:17 p.m.
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                SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:30 p.m.
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                  Charon (cache-1.spg.va.webcache.rcn.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:42 p.m.
                  • To be fair, The Voiceless One's exerpt from GURPS
                    Chris t' Crappy (39.mercerville-41-42rs.nj.dial-access.att.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:57 p.m.
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                      Charon (207-172-111-154.s154.tnt1.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 5:04 p.m.
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                        SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 5:56 p.m.
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                          Charon (207-172-111-154.s154.tnt1.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 6:11 p.m.
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                            SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 9:16 p.m.
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                          Dan Rudolph (213-A-37-110.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 10:36 p.m.
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                            SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/10/2000 at 12:34 a.m.
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                              Dan Rudolph (315-A-41-149.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/10/2000 at 12:57 a.m.
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                                SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/10/2000 at 3:40 p.m.
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                    SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 5:53 p.m.
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                      Dan Rudolph (213-A-37-110.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 10:31 p.m.
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                  Forrest (cache1.avtel.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 7:24 p.m.
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                    SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 9:09 p.m.
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          Forrest (cache1.avtel.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 3:40 p.m.
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            SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/9/2000 at 4:15 p.m.
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              Dan Rudolph (213-A-37-110.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 10:37 p.m.
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                SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/10/2000 at 12:31 a.m.
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                  Dan Rudolph (315-A-41-149.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/10/2000 at 12:56 a.m.
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                    SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 1/10/2000 at 3:46 p.m.
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    Darth Myrkridia (24.65.176.118.bc.wave.home.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 1:48 a.m.
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      Dan Rudolph (320-A-42-147.ppp.mcleodusa.net) -- 1/9/2000 at 2:23 a.m.
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        Darth Myrkridia (24.65.176.118.bc.wave.home.com) -- 1/9/2000 at 11:50 a.m.

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