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Re: The Deceiver and Alric
Posted By: Chris t' Crappy (93.mercerville-43-44rs.nj.dial-access.att.net)
Date: 1/7/2000 at 10:28 p.m.
In Response To: Re: The Deceiver and Alric (David Wellington)
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: They are the bad guys, so he's
: pulling the old Connacht trick of being ten times
: tougher than anybody else.
Very interesting theory...
: The problems creep in when the Deceiver captures Alric.
: The D, an old general of Connacht's, is under the same
: spell but not to the same degree. He thinks about how
: he could undo some of the damage that is done, and
: decides the best way is to have Alric talk to Balor,
: try to reason with him. Balor goes to the interview
: expecting to meet with a serious baddy--and Alric just
: confuses him. I mean, this guy LOOKs evil, if you're
: twisted like B, but he sounds like a good
: old-fashioned Avatara. Balor is so confused he blurts
: out a bunch of useful information and then decides not
: to kill Alric but to imprison him until he (Balor) can
: work out all the complicated repercussions here. This
: is when the war starts turning and you start making
: some real progress--I think because Balor is in the
: midst of a moral crisis. Alric uses this to his best
: advantage but eventually it becomes a liability, not
: an asset--Balor is sulking in his fortress, trying to
: find himself, and Alric needs to draw him out, so he
: resolves the moral quandary by making himself look
: like an ally of the Myrkridia--which in Balor's eye is
: most definitely a sign of infinite badness. Well, okay
: then, Balor thinks, I was right all along. Might as
: well make it rain dwarf heads and kick some ass. The
: rest is history...
...but this is where it falls apart. Do you really think the Deceiver would want Balor to talk with Alric? To reason with him? I don't know about that. I think if the Deceiver had enough free-will to go searching for the Watcher's arm for over a year (would Balor and his "hold" on his Fallen allow two of his own to search out ways to destroy one another? No, he would make sure they are fighting the one true enemy, not each other.) then he had enough ability to trick Alric and gain the upper-hand with false information.
Yes, Alric's rescue was not very easy, and the D could have just let Alric go, but then he would have looked bad, plus what's the worse that could happen? Alric dies? Oh well, the Deceiver would be rewarded for killing such a powerful enemy. Also, the rescue actually was kind of easy when you think about it. 3 groups of thrall, some ghols and random souless. Then on the trip out, same thing plus a Shade. Hmm, I think the D knew Alric could take care of the Shade. I'm sure of that.
Plus, Balor didn't "blurt out a bunch of useful information". When Balor dies, none of the remaining Fallen feel the affects and perish too. I can't stress this enough. Someone who wanted Balor dead and perhaps whatever bond there was to be broken told Alric to kill Balor and leave little worry for the Fallen.
I also find it interesting that the Watcher defends the road towards Balor's castle. It seems as if the Deceiver told Alric to get to Balor and kill him at all costs, and there is the D's worst enemy, the Watcher, standing between Balor and the Legion. It's as if he was set up to take the fall.
Think about it : The Deceiver captures Alric. The Deceiver either works with Alric or cloaks himself to appear to be Balor lets the false information slip. Alric believes that he must kill Balor at all costs. The Deceiver lets Alric in on the secret to killing the Watcher, either on purpose or by "accident". It's stressed that killing Balor is important, even if that means going through one of the Fallen. The Watcher just happens to be the Fallen Lord who is standing between Balor and the Legion. The Legion just happens to have the Watcher's arm and knows of his one weakeness. They use it, the road to Balor opens up, plus, the Deceiver's enemy is defeated. Seems convienant to me, a little too convienant for the Deceiver.
: The D doesn't help Alric escape. It would have been very
: easy for him to let Alric go in the middle of the
: night and say, "whoops, sorry. Don't know what
: happened, the guy was just too tricky for me." If
: he wanted to make it look good he could have turned
: his own shade (the way he does in Myth 2--twice!) and
: then blamed the idiot for Alric's release. He can't do
: these things because the link to Balor is keeping him
: relatively loyal and relatively evil. Letting Alric
: and Balor talk it out is the best he can achieve.
Too tricky for him? Hmm...I find that hard to believe. I seem to doubt that the Deceiver makes many mistakes and trying to explain his mistake to Balor would not be easy.
: The theory essentially boils down to this: the Leveller
: and his Baddies are heroes of the light reborn.
: Destiny demands of them that they be evil but it
: forgets to let them in on the plot twist--they're
: still fighting the same old war, they're just confused
: about which side they're on.
All in all, very interesting and seemingly plausible. Except for the interrogation part ;)
Chris
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