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Re: Yet another evidenceless Shiver-Ravanna theory

Posted By: SiliconDream=PN= (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 1/4/2000 at 2:03 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Yet another evidenceless Shiver-Ravanna theory (Dan Rudolph)

: Two different incarnations. Keep in mind Soulblighter
: also has two proper names. (Damas and Anshar.)

Ah, yes. Forgot about that.

: I don't think anyone ever saw the Voiceless One. Her
: GURPS entry certainly didn't make it sound that way. I
: think Shiver and the Voiceless one weren't two
: different names for the same person, but rather two
: different aspects. Both Shiver and her previous
: incarnation inhabited the same body.

How would the Light learn of the existence, name and title of the Voiceless One if they never saw her? I don't think the Fallen Lords were in the habit of chatting with the Light about their absent comrades.

: Those spells were apparently part of the Voiceless one.
: Perhaps there's some aspect that doesn't work without
: her. Your theory requires the existence of seven
: Fallen Lords apart from Balor, which contradicts every
: single source.

But the spells were used by Shiver *as* Shiver, as we know both from GURPS and from the TFL comic. And I doubt that a Dream would be usable by some archmages and not by others. If you know a Dream, you can use it.

My theory only has six Fallen Lords--I say nothing about the Faceless Man, who isn't mentioned anywhere but in the pre-game info. Since GURPS doesn't say anything about him, I figure he dropped out of the world of the finished game.

--SiliconDream

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