: Actually the Dark gods not Nyx beheaded Segoth (Wyrd's
: son) because they thought Wyrd had tricked them.
Hrm. So maybe the Leveller is one of the Dark Gods, or was created by them. Does it mention anything about the nature of the Leveller, other than being the surname of all the cyclical destroyers?
: Technically it doesn't say that Wyrd lose the battle...
I assumed that Nyx lost the battle, since the only thing of hers in the known Myth world is Tharsis - the rest is Wyrd's. Was Segoth beheaded before or after the Wyrd-Nyx war? Where did Nyx come from, same place as Wyrd? Or was she around before, one of the Dark Gods?
: only that the world began with it. Ok, so it does say
: that the Trow choose to worship the "looser"
: perhaps as a result of their judgement of Wyrd's
: craftmanship. Although I would probably worship the
: god that created me not the god thats my creators
: enemy...
This just reinforces what I assumed; the Trow worship Nyx, who created them ("At the dawn of time Nyx molded us out of stone and clay"). So if they worship the looser, then Nyx lost.
: Speaking of avatara and dreams, Wyrd drew his power from
: the One Dream. Legend has it that the map we see of
: Myth is what Wyrd saw when he first awoke, from the
: One Dream. Everything beyond that does really exist.
: That is just common belief in Myth not fact. Anyway,
: apparently, the Dark gods finally got revenge on Wyrd
: himself by shattering the One Dream into the 49 Dreams
: of Wyrd (49 = 7 x 7 Bungie and their sevens!) and
: scattering the them across the world of myth. Rune
: stone now mark these sites.
What is the One Dream? Acer Malum Magnus implies that people (or at least Trow) can be returned to it. Is it some aetherial afterlife/protolife, a sort of heaven/hell/purgatory in one - the spirit realm, basically? From what I've heard of it, it seems this way.
Something like the "philotic" physics of the "Ender" series (my favorite books) by Orson Scott Card - basically, there are spirits ("aiuas") that exist in a spaceless, timeless, absolute lack of a universe as we know it (called the "Outside"), and their dreams become the reality of the universe. One of them dreamt the universe and all it's laws into existance, and others dreams govern all systems within it, from superclusters of galaxies to the quantum systems of subatomic particles, and everything in between, including people.
A vast super-AI, living as a web of philots (the infintely small, instantanious communication strands connections aiuas to eachother) between all the human computer systems in known space, even learned how to dream of physical objects like people and spaceships, on the subatomic level, allowing her to dissapear them from the known universe into the Outside (where they became their own mini-universe), which is equally close to any point in space or time, so she could then dream them back Inside anywhere in the universe - creating FTL travel, and allowing people to dreams things of their own into spontaneous existance while Outside (and aiuas from the Outside would jump in to manage the systems the people dreamt into existance). Ender Wiggen's own aiua dreamt his memory of his centuries-dead brother into existance, as well of a younger memory of his still-living sister - and tried to manage them all itself. Eventually it lost interest in Ender and his faux-sister Val altogether, obsessing entirely with his faux-brother Peter, and leaving Val's body under the control of Jane (the AI, whose computer systems had just been shut down in an attempt to kill her) and letting his own old body crumble into it's constituent parts (which were still governed by other aiuas, not interested in giving up their systems).
Sound anything like the One Dream and the Dreams of Wyrd?
: Well I don't know if he out after the Leveller so much,
: but he would probably risk the Light a lot more than
: the average person would, because he is immortal and
: cannot die because of the magics placed on him.
So he didn't die in the civil war. What happened to him then? Maybe he was shipped out to sea in a slowly-sinking ship, or buried in some vault under Muirthemne, or thrown into Tharsis (which I think would be the best place to dispose of anything, next to the Great Devoid perhaps. Ooh, hey - take all the powerfull, evil artifacts in the world, along with the next Leveller, and throw them all into Tharsis. Then beam Tharsis itself into the Tain - which is itself falling into Tharsis - and drop that into the Great Devoid. Hrm... what would happen if you tried to beam the Tain into itself?).
