: Its ok to joke about people, '..taking the easy way out',
: but its also the sane way. It would take some proper
: evidence for me to believe that the Watcher is still
: alive, not some 3D model with the wrong arm missing.
I believe it was Jenova who created the watcher conversion for Myth II, and he said that the buried sound clip related to a shade that teleported(I think). It doesn't matter if it was not included with the final version because it was never intended to be used on the watcher. Blackhand and Milk Man: you are wrong!