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Re: "The Cycle has been Broken"

Posted By: Martel (213.187.39.225)
Date: 1/8/2004 at 11:54 a.m.

In Response To: Re: "The Cycle has been Broken" (Heron Guard King)

: Yeah, i forgot this. Good post Garba. Yes sure they
: couldn't beat deceiver with 2 survivors(one zerk and
: one warr without hand), still in myth 2 bungie wrote:
: "Twelve Motion Jeweled Skull says he was last
: here sixty years ago, fighting alongside the likes of
: Durak and Turgeis with Burning Steel. They caught The
: Deceiver and the remnants of his army in this very
: defile and here destroyed them."

: So there are more survivors from the legion, so it means
: Light won and Cycle is really broken, no matter how
: many cities conquered or solodiers killed Balor's
: armies.

Depends on the time period, really. As I see it, it's more likely that the Deceiver got iced only a short while after his defeat by the Watcher, fleeing North, but being cornered by the Berserks and Fir'bolg stationed to guard the Stair of Grief. That the Deceiver would retreat later seems highly unlikely: by all accounts, the Dark was winning the battle in the West at the time of Balor's death- and if they had enough military might to take Madrigal, Tandem should have fallen relatively easily. My guess is that the Dark forces in the West were without any of the major Fallen Lords to accompany them (Soulblighter and the Watcher having been sent West to stop the Legion, Shiver being dead and the Deceiver, even if still active, left with no army worthy of the name. And without an accompanying Fallen Lord, these Dark forces would have been far more vulnerable to the psionic shockwave of Balor's death.

As for the Legion, it was probably completely wiped out. But bear in mind that the Legion wasn't the only army of the Light- but it was the best trained, best equipped, best led, most experienced and most stubborn of the forces of the Light. The Legion was, as it were, the hard backbone that kept the Light in battle-worthy condition. Yes, there were Province militias and the personal armies of nobles, but GURPS Myth makes it fairly clear that these were of fairly poor quality compared to the battle-hardened Legionairres, probably only armoured in leather (chainmail is /very/ expensive and time-consuming to produce and "armed with axes as often as swords".

: The war is like a chess game. Who kills King win, so
: Alric(white or light king) "killed"
: Balor(black or dark King). In chess game doesn't
: matter how many chess figures you kill, single it
: matters to kill the king. Right? So myth war was the
: same thing.

Except that Chess is not exactly a perfect representation of reality. Or, the more-or-less quote Phyrrus, "Another such victory, and we shall be undone."

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