: Remember too that some Shades, like Turquine, volunteer
: for the transformation; this indicates that they
: expect to survive with mind intact (though somewhat
: warped by the "indescribable tortures of the
: Fallen," no doubt.)
Ah true. Where did you learn that about Turquine out of curiosity?
: I'd imagine Shades are just as varied psychologically as
: evil living mages. They may serve their masters out of
: honest loyalty or brainwashing; out of fear of
: discipline; out of greed for the political/magical
: power they're offered; because there's no other
: employment options for an infamous undead fiend; or
: any combination of these.
Yeah, I can agree with that. I'd like to think that they are each characters of their own. It's an element of the Myth storyline I'd love to have seen developed. Much like the Fallen Lords, it would have been great to 'get to know' some of the bad guys. There are so many great characters, and so few (like the Avatara aside from Alric) are ever detailed.
: Phelot had probably been very loyal to Shiver; she seemed
: to place great trust in him. Could be he helped
: Soulblighter track down her spirit and reincarnate it.
: But loyalty doesn't count for much when you're dealing
: with The Deceiver. Probably Myrdred used the Binding
: Dream on Phelot when he "sorely injured him"
: just before A Murder of Crows.
Ah, yeah, forgot that. I didn't think the Binding Dream effected Undead? I'm not sure though, since we never get Myrdred in a level containing them. I'm pretty sure it Myrks, Ghol, and Mauls in any level involving him. Except Shiver, but I don't think it worked on Thrall or Soulles there, did it?
Or Shades considered undead in story? Are they undead for game-play rules (can they be anti-healed etc.)?
: Hm. Why would it be? They were busy running
: away/dying/being trapped in icy rivers; Soulblighter
: was already off to the East, perhaps after his failure
: at the Devoid. Would they have had a chance to talk?
True, I didn't think of this. I assume, however, that The Deceiver knew of Balor's demise. If he knew that much, he'd probably know Soulblighter had survived at least this far. Perhaps his spies would have informed him of what went down at the Devoid?
: --SiliconDream
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