: I was reading Names of the Fallen, and I don't mean to
: destroy your theory, SiliconDream, but Shiver
: (Ravanna, Culwyeh) IS an ancient one as the story of
: Myth 3:The Wolf Age goes. Ravanna was one of the 4
: heroes
: (Damas(Soulblighter),Ravanna(Shiver),Myrdred(The
: Deciever),and Connacht(Balor)).All of them became
: Fallen Lords except for Connacht,who became the
: Leveler.
YES !! Now I see why Myth3 (which in my opinion is still great, or at least very good) causes some havoc history-wise.
But first of all, this piece of information regarding Ancient Ones and Turned from the Light where can be found ?
Bear in mind that I played Myth1 and 2 ages ago.
Anyway I think I figured out what your point was :(obviously you already know everything I'm going to write about)
1) If Damas, Myrdred and Ravanna had all the same age, more or less, and when they met for the first time they where already all "champions", then why Damas and Ravanna would become Ancient ones, while Myrdred did not ?
By the way Myrdred was certainly more powerful than Ravanna at least and perhaps he was turned from the Light before the other two.
2) Why put on the same table the Watcher who has at least 1500 years if not more(using Myth1 timetable) and some younger lords just as the aforementioned trio ?
3) In Myth1 clearly The Watcher is simply stronger than the Deceiver. Shiver who should be an Ancient is just destroyed at the "beginning".
What was my point ? Simple if all the info on Ancient ones and Turned ones was taken from the bungie site eons ago.. and ONLY from the site, well we could try discarding this.
We clearly see that Bahl'al is stronger than Myrdred and Shiver which in my opionion is the weakest of them all.
Bahl'al is an Ancient.
Myrdred and Shiver are Turned.
The other Ancient would be very well Moagim, The Faceless Terror even if we do not seem to meet him at all.
Well anyway, if I wrote things that havev been already written, please forgive me. Just participating.