: Completely incorrect, my good man.
: Thrall were in service and fighting LONG before Connacht
: was even alive, let alone him becoming Balor.
: Case in point- Mazzarin was killed by seven waves of
: Thrall and the Watcher, and he was around during the
: Wind age, 431 to 1430 CE. Thrall, of course, being
: around prior to Mazzarin's death at the hands of the
: Watcher, and therefore long before Connacht was even
: born, proving, as Children of Bahl'al, that he had
: them in action centuries prior to TFL.
I'm afraid you've missed the point. I was implying that it was the Leveller who granted the power, through Balor. In previous incarnations, the power would have been passed on through Moagim "and all those who came before him".
Now surely if this were the case, Bahl'al could not have been the first to use this power. Not so. As an ancient evil, Bah'lal could well have stood by the original Leveller and received the power first to use himself. After all, raising the dead would be a task delegated by a deity, not performed himself.
: You're assuming too much, just like Forrest.
: The text reads that wagons of dead were being carted into
: the Baron's keep, and nothing relating to Thrall. For
: all we know, he could be having morgue parties or some
: weird fetish like that.
: There is nothing in the record to support the idea that
: the Baron is actively producing thrall.
I refer you to the Ghast description from Myth 2.
: As for the dream of unlife being in another's hands,
: there is nothing to support that at all, in any text;
: it's pure and simple unsupported speculation, not even
: worthy of argument (in the sense of the field of
: logic).
I never implied that.
: No, again, you're missing the main point.
: Forrest's entire assertion that the Watcher is Bahl'al
: was based on hollow and flimsy testimony from a
: European TFL pre-release site, second-party and
: therefore inadmissible, and it was backed up by two
: mentions of one city being under siege.
: That we haven't seen hide nor hair of Bahl'al, yet we do
: see tons of Thrall, is (by my hypothesis of course,
: since he's the only one who can produce them),
: evidence that he's in hiding, still manufacturing
: them, like some plant foreman or contractor general.
As you state yourself, this only holds true if you take him to be the only one who can produce them. Evidence shows he is not.
: If you want my full opinion, it is this: Bahl'al went to
: Si'anwon, which is under the Gjol River near the
: source, found the dream, but never left. Instead, he
: has been summoning they who bring him corpses, and in
: return, his thrall armies are theirs for whatever
: purpose they wish. This would explain not only where
: Si'anwon is, (at the bottom of the source of the
: Gjol), but why it's poisoned (all those corpses wont
: leave the river smelling like flowers. Bacteria are
: dangerous things, and they live in dead bodies, after
: all).
: It'd be simple- you dump a cartload of bodies into the
: river, wait on the banks for three to seven days, and
: out come a number of Thrall close to the number of
: bodies deposited, armed with implements made of
: ancient Trow iron, awaiting your orders. Perhaps
: they're even self-delivering, marching to your home
: under cover of darkness.
This is pure speculation, correct? There is little supporting evidence for this. And the idea of having to bring all corpses to Si'anwon for any thrall to be created is ludicrous. What's more, using Trow iron to arm the thrall? You must be joking. Thrall would be unable to weild Trow weapons, the axes you see them using are far too small to be of the Trow variety and the idea of an underwater forge manned solely by Bah'lal is somewhat implausible. And why choose Avon's Grove to choose which corpses to use? It's nowhere near water.
: For what reason would Bahl'al be doing this? Who knows?
: Perhaps he's a necrophiliac and keeps only the finest
: specimens for himself, perhaps he feasts on the brains
: of dead geniuses, harboring their intellects. Perhaps
: he's a high priest of an ancient, long dead,
: voodoo-like sect that worshipped the dead- there's no
: way anyone can know except maybe Tuncer Deniz.
: Maybe he must stay there because the dream, as a physical
: object (as dispersal dreams are), is so huge, it can't
: be moved- like some variety of shrine or massive
: stone, or chunk of stainless steel. Trow are rock
: creatures, after all...
This just seems far too fanciful.
